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When will the obsession with "analog" stop? (pg. 12)
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| Beatflux |
| Wow. This topic is almost as bad as people arguing about analog. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| I've created a monster! |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Dude, you're a psych student, not a geneticist or brain surgeon. You're not an expert in anatomy or cognitive science. Don't try to assert authority over a subject you know nothing about. |
"Dude", you're not an expert in anatomy/cognitive science either so wtf is your point? Also, I'm allowed to "assert my authority" w/out being an expert because this isn't times magazine. Its tranceaddict.com.
Whats also important, is the fact that noone even muttered a word about genes or brain surgery. So you are actually talking about that never happened, just in some lame attempt to undermine my intelligence.
Should I make a list of professions that digi isn't either? No.. because that would be a dweeb thing to do.
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Maybe they did teach you some of this in school, but obviously they only scratched the surface, because the crap you're spewing is so utterly superficial, it sounds like it came straight off one of those web pages on recreational drugs. Or maybe Wikipedia. |
Shut the up. You should know better than to talk to me like that. I never once came in here proclaiming to be an expert at anything. You afterall are the one who likes to dismiss the significance of evolutionary theory by saying humans didn't evolve on condoms, forgetting all together that if humans had the choice, noone would use a condom.
You don't even know how to formulate a decent argument please don't make gross generalized claims about what you assume to know about me. Also, theres no point really talking about Wikipedia if you're too lazy to go reference something I actually said. Otherwise it tends to come off try hard like you have no real dirt to throw at me, but wish you did.
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
If you want to argue the facts, fine. But stop throwing your dick around and acting like a few hours in the same classrooms that engineers and pre-med students sat in as a bird course somehow make you uniquely qualified to comment on every single aspect of music and science (because it's all psychology, right? :rolleyes: ). |
"Facts", encase you weren't aware, a debate on whether or not the brain is more analog or digital couldn't possibly be based on facts, because the brain is neither or. Also, I clearly don't comment on "every single aspect" of music and science. Out of the last 40 or so threads that have been made, I likely posted in 5 or 6 of them. Go look. You're suppose to be a moderator around here, but you never seem to know wtf you're talking about.
Lastly I'm not sure why you even mention pre-med students like you have any sort of idea what they study. The entire school of medicine is a "bird course", and most of those bookworms lack the common sense to communicate with anyone in the real world. They also like learning about a lot of medicines that half of them never will even wind up prescribing, while ignoring completely significant medical problems such as EDS. Not a single med student knows what it is, and neither do you. So drop the like you're even up to par with what a stupid ass med student knows.
You seemed to have missed the point that I wasn't even talking about the brain being digital as much as I was challenging M4Bs insignificant grounds for his digital assertation. It was about as strong as your condom explanation, which I'm more than certain is the only reason you chose to engage me then demean my intelligence in the first place. I never once said I was "uniquely qualified" at anything. People like you just assume that because I like psychology and like talking about it. Its about as accurate as me saying the only reason you responded to my ramble with a ramble is because I disagreed with you about evolution (or maybe that is accurate hmm). You could have as easily picked M4B, or twilo, but you picked me because … I ramble? And tell people I'm an expert? Maybe the first parts true, but you're spreading just as many "facts" as I am.
Woopty doo my names Digi and I just proved the entire field of evolutionary science wrong because guess what? We wear condoms ! I'd be mad too if I was you and made a dumbass remark like that then got owned by some psychology student. Don't come at me bitching about it, go open a psych book.
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
I'm not even kidding, you simply don't know how to debate an issue and I'm getting sick of watching you try. You ramble on endlessly either stating opinions as facts or making up new facts as you go along, and when you finally manage to paint yourself into a corner, you inevitably respond with some variation of "I don't have to explain myself to you, I'm a Psychologist!" . Off. |
"I'm not even kidding".. yeh and thats a great way to start a debate, that and "dude" are the top preferred choice words of expert communicators nationwide.
Please don't talk to me about debating or what some call "critical discourse". I've taken more courses on communication/discourse than you can count, given dozens of speeches for IRB certified research conventions, spoke at crisis groups, you name it. Music encase you didn't know is not generally a field full of expert communicators. Psychology is.
I also never once painted myself into a corner, but you wish I did. Lets not forget thats your bias perception of what happened. I left the thread BECAUSE it wasn't entertaining anymore. No more, no less, get it right.
Encase you're not aware. 99% of threads that involve with the words "analog/digital" turn into the same boring, predictable, and monotonous everytime. People were already predicting where this thread was headed. However, the physiology topic for once wasn't predictable. I entertained it in a highly sarcastic manner. If you in your head actually believed for one ing second, that I thought the brain was either digital or analog, then its very apparent that you are NOT a psychologist. I talk to M4B like I talk to my father. I also respect him quite a lot, and even voiced this to him fairly recently. You are the one who actually took that whole debate seriously, which is the sad part. I was just ing with him to see if he'd break his role, but M4B never does that. And you are somehow disillusioned into thinking I was speaking facts, and are likely the only person in this thread to have thought that.
Any outside spectator was able to see this thread for what it was. Something that should have been locked months ago but wasn't because our mods are too busy drinking on the job. I'm sorry I shouldn't say that, because digi was busy drinking on the job.
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
For the record, the human brain is not analog, digital, quantum, or any of those things. The human brain is biological. Or biochemical, depending on who you ask. Organic matter does not work on electronic principles. Saying it's digital or analog or whatever else is an analogy, or a model, which is useful enough for what it is but has absolutely no value as evidence in a discussion like this. |
Thanks for the lesson I would have never known that had you not explained it to me right now. I imagine you learn these valuable things in engineering school? Either way truly perplexing.
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
I might as well say that airplanes fly, therefore they're like birds, which means they must also on windshields and get chased by cats. That's a form of inductive reasoning, and a rather flagrant and useless one. You're asserting a strong conclusion by relying on a weak analogy. It's not a valid argument. |
Again I can't thank you enough for your tutorial on inductive reasoning.
You'll likely ban me, I don't really care cause you're a nerd like that. But its evident now that you simply take me too seriously. I am a wise ass yes, but you are a ing mod, act like one. At no point did I insult anyone untill you came in here and insulted me. So suck my ing dick you petty bitch.
You on the other hand came in here just to address me, to make damn well sure that I know I'm not intelligent or an expert at anything… to demean my intelligence and tell me to " off". The reality is you don't disprove evolution on the grounds of one statement about condoms, you also don't prove the brain is analog by a weak explanation of neurons always being "on or off". I never professed to be an expert at anything, but those 2 opinions were well deserved. I spoke them, if you don't like them, don't ever come in here pretending to be a moderator and telling long term members to " off". Tell me to "get on topic". I'm not sure how you expect a single person in here to respect you when you can't even act your role.
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Unless you've actually got something to say for once, you'd better be. |
I once saw you write a lengthy dissertation about the problems with newbies on this forum in the middle of a thread which wasn't even remotely justified. It was one of the most repulsive, offensive, and bias things I've ever read on this forum in my life.
I was posting in that thread with other people, and got 2 pms from people telling me how fed up they were with favoring and level of selective empathy on here. I even know a couple of them pm'd swamper.
I never ONCE came into that thread or mentioned anything about your intelligence and how bitter your rant sounded because god forbid someone reprimands digi for acting like a moron. You had long term members ready to leave the forum over it (yes a post about newbies that is) and I can't even imagine what the newbies who read it were thinking.
It was your way of "moderating". You come in, vent, then leave and go back to your cat naps or w/e it is you do all day. The point is I read that and thought "maybe he just had a bad day", but the fact is it was downright ed up. I still left it alone, BECAUSE people are going to think what they think regardless of how much you rant about it, or I rant about you ranting, or you rant about me ranting.
You sometimes come into threads on a pedestal higher than snoop dog, make a lot of pretentious comments, and never have to hear about it from anyone. But thank you for once again, coming into a thread, and telling me to " off" after I ALREADY made the decision to off w/out your help. We make a lot of decisions on this forum w/out your help. And the sad fact is, with or without you, a single thing on this forum would never change. That’s how much difference you make as a moderator here. If you can be proud of anything now, it will be the fact you banned Robby Rox. At least you have something to put on your mod'n resume. Don't ever ing come into a thread insulting members when they're just playing around. Tell them to stop and act like a mod who knows how to do his job.
And I should mention what I know more about than psychology, and neurology, and organic chemistry, is computer technology, hacking, and how to never get banned from a forum. So go ahead and push that button you bitch. Because if you think thats gonna get rid of me for good you're clearly mistaken. |
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| theterran |
Wonder how many tracks aren't in existence due to the time spent flaming, ranting and arguing on TA in the production studio about things irrelevant to music...
Any guesses?
I'm thinking in the realm of OVER 9000.
We need a new meme or something for this...
"Every time a Production Studio thread Derails, God aborts TA's next new hit single."
Now I'm done with this thread.
Wait...
Now.
No...not yet...
*Counterargument* NOW!
YOU!!!!! Ok now I'm done...
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| ken_lee |
| what thread was that? need some read material for my sunday sleep :=) |
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| kevin shawn |
| The ban hammer is coming :nervous: |
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| Twilothunder23 |
Bro on a real tho psychology don't got to do with anything we talkin about here. Condoms evolution this that the neurons in the brains and the rest of the crap. Let me break it down to you. It is more simple that that. Analog is based on actual components that cost money. So if you go to a parts store and build the from scratch you need lettuce to buy them in parts. caps resistors transistors transformers indusors casing powersupply knobs dispays all that . So you got 1000 units to build and need $300 in parts per unit you go to digikey and try to work a deal. Diginut at digikey ain't that some ?
Then you got to pay them mother******s that is gonna build all that at the factory. They ain't gonna do it for free. So now lets say you want to build 1000 of them units. you need 300.000 in costs cost of labor cost of machines you in half a mil to make 1000 units.
You in the pro industry on some pro industry . Now if you can hire a few hungry programmers str8 out of mothering school pay them to toss some code together that is tweeked freeware stuff somebody designed as a hobby pay the peeps at the magazines to say it is very analog and pay this homie that homie to say they like to use it and name it after some vintage synthesizer everybody wants you wont make that much money but it wont cost you to make everything you make is money in your pocket. Them software peeps aint even making disks no more. Half the they are selling ain't even worth the disk its burned on. Psychology? is you talkin about?
Now there has been some software that despite all that through clever processing and programing is actually very useful. So alot of great stuff has been produced on software.
It is actually possible. So you can set up a midi rig with software that you find useful hardware and all that and make some music instead of wasting time on trance addict talking about what mad fag for brad brad thinks how djrann is not smart enough to understand that moog got payed to say that or what djrobby rox and the moderator that likes to post in a different fond then everybody else has to say on this very important issue. :rolleyes: Real talk. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Twilothunder23
Bro on a real tho psychology don't got to do with anything we talkin about here. Condoms evolution this that the neurons in the brains and the rest of the crap. Let me break it down to you. It is more simple that that. Analog is based on actual components that cost money. So if you go to a parts store and build the from scratch you need lettuce to buy them in parts. caps resistors transistors transformers indusors casing powersupply knobs dispays all that . So you got 1000 units to build and need $300 in parts per unit you go to digikey and try to work a deal. Diginut at digikey ain't that some ?
Then you got to pay them mother******s that is gonna build all that at the factory. They ain't gonna do it for free. So now lets say you want to build 1000 of them units. you need 300.000 in costs cost of labor cost of machines you in half a mil to make 1000 units.
You in the pro industry on some pro industry . Now if you can hire a few hungry programmers str8 out off mothering school pay them to toss some code together that is tweeked freeware stuff somebody designed as a hobby pay the peeps at the magazines to say it is very analog and pay this homie that homie to say they like to use it and name it after some vintage synthesizer everybody wants you wont make that much money but it wont cost you to make everything you make is money in your pocket. Them software peeps aint even making disks no more. Half the they are selling ain't even worth the disk its burned on. Psychology? is you talkin about?
Now there has been some software that despite all that through clever processing and programing is actually very useful. So alot of great stuff has been produced on software.
It is actually possible. So you can set up a midi rig with software that you find useful hardware and all that and make some music instead of wasting time on trance addict talking about what mad fag for brad brad thinks how djrann is not smart enough to understand that moog got payed to say that or what djrobby rox and the moderator that likes to post in a different fond then everybody else has to say on this very important issue. :rolleyes: Real talk. |
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| Raphie |
I just think some guys posting here have severe personallity dissorders and have their ego's stand in their way.
On days, they can be decent, if lucky even additive. On worse days, just hide and stay away as it's troll fest galore, while rubbing their ePenis in order to ejaculate more crap into these topics.
On those days i just stay away and don't enter the cage..... |
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| Twilothunder23 |
I already told you whats up tho so add this to the game:
| quote: | Originally posted by Twilothunder23
Bro on a real tho psychology don't got to do with anything we talkin about here. Condoms evolution this that the neurons in the brains and the rest of the crap. Let me break it down to you. It is more simple that that. Analog is based on actual components that cost money. So if you go to a parts store and build the from scratch you need lettuce to buy them in parts. caps resistors transistors transformers indusors casing powersupply knobs dispays all that . So you got 1000 units to build and need $300 in parts per unit you go to digikey and try to work a deal. Diginut at digikey ain't that some ?
Then you got to pay them mother******s that is gonna build all that at the factory. They ain't gonna do it for free. So now lets say you want to build 1000 of them units. you need 300.000 in costs cost of labor cost of machines you in half a mil to make 1000 units.
You in the pro industry on some pro industry . Now if you can hire a few hungry programmers str8 out of mothering school pay them to toss some code together that is tweeked freeware stuff somebody designed as a hobby pay the peeps at the magazines to say it is very analog and pay this homie that homie to say they like to use it and name it after some vintage synthesizer everybody wants you wont make that much money but it wont cost you to make everything you make is money in your pocket. Them software peeps aint even making disks no more. Half the they are selling ain't even worth the disk its burned on. Psychology? is you talkin about?
Now there has been some software that despite all that through clever processing and programing is actually very useful. So alot of great stuff has been produced on software.
It is actually possible. So you can set up a midi rig with software that you find useful hardware and all that and make some music instead of wasting time on trance addict talking about what mad fag for brad brad thinks how djrann is not smart enough to understand that moog got payed to say that or what djrobby rox and the moderator that likes to post in a different fond then everybody else has to say on this very important issue. :rolleyes: Real talk. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by Eric J
Bump that number up to $10,000 and its probably more accurate than not. Seen the guy on there who has a room with walls completely covered in a modular synthesizer? I have a hard time believing any of that is even plugged in. Half of it looks like it's 10 feet off the ground! You'd have to get on a ladder to tweak a knob! |
Man I used to have a 10K studio. Only thing I miss is the Genelec 1031A's, nord lead 3, roland tb 303 and jomox x base. But check this out, I never even used the x base or tb 303 in a track. Fact is a nord lead 3 (I opened it up to clean it) was this tiny little circuit board. Basically it was just a controller. lol.
Can't you just wait for the next generation of digital recordings? Once bandwidth isn't a concern on the internet watch out. Could you imagine a 30 times the bandwidth as the conventional PCM recordings have? No need for a stupid mastering engineer would exist and mixing would be 10000000000 times less of a pina. |
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| Scrittah |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Shut the up. You should know better than to talk to me like that.
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