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When will the obsession with "analog" stop? (pg. 9)
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
it was meant to be an analogy but our perception of the world is not analog therefor it must be some quantized approximation. That is something you cannot argue. Well . |
Analogies are useful for explaining concepts, and occasionally for illustrating the problems with a particular line of reasoning, but they can't be used as positive proof for any hypothesis.
To the question of whether or not analog synths either (a) sound better than digital synths or the weaker assertion (b) cannot be accurately modeled by digital synths, the only useful proof is either a [double]-blind test, which disproves (a), or a perfect digital model of an analog instrument, which disproves (b) and therefore (a) as well.
Of course, there are already several analog modeling synths, so the obnoxious analog snobs are going to demand a scientific test anyway to prove that the modeler actually sounds as good as the original. That's been done, too, but good luck trying to make that point amidst a sea of "we don't hear in digital!" nugacity.
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
That was enough dialog about analog to fill a catalog, if you ask me. What's next, a M4B monologue delivered in Tagalog? |
I'm sure that was merely a prologue to a much longer trialogue with an ideologue throwing homologues against a demagogue and a pedagogue. We're nowhere near the epilogue. |
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| DJ RANN |
Epic thread guys. I never though I would see arguments, regardless how flawed, about the the brain is analogue or digital. Only on TA.
I'm going with Bob Moog on this one: "the Aruria VST version of my (voyager) synth sounds indentical".
You can model anything, even "random" (not that it exists but that's another discussion) analogue artifacts (introduced by electronic resistor/capacitor/chip/etc errors) if you program with enough complexity (as arturia have actually incorporated).
Let's not also forget a large part of the obsession with analogue is down to a perceived distortion "colouration" of sound, which now software manufacturers are bringing out plugins which do little else that add that desired tonal change. |
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| Mad for Brad |
| not to downplay his legacy but Bob isn't really at an age where he can make audio comparisons. I mean his hearing must be down to like 8 kHz. But I do agree with you. |
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| Twilothunder23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by vikernes
You have _absolutely_ no idea what you're talking about Nexus. I'm a little drunk right now, so I don't feel like explaining, but feel free to go over to the vengeance forums and ask markus or just search around or at the very least use your common sense.
I will give you 100$ if you can distinguish between a saw coming from an analog synth or a Vsti. It will be a blind test: I will make a 1 minute wav featuring 10 pure saw waves.
You will have 1 day to post your result which will be in the style of "the saw coming from an analog synth is at 0:35 seconds". If you fail you will buy me a virus ti and have it ship to me.
Put your money were your mouth is.
Challenge accepted? |
It is what it is. Not all tools are created equal. I have 6 analog synths and a digital rompler. I know what software brings to the table I have worked with it extensively day in and day out. I can patch an analog synth to get a sound or patch an es2 to get a similar sound. Hell I even know how to make it work if I have to. I know what the difference is going to be in my setup with my speakers and my music. To me that is more important then what some other person thinks or some internet bull argument I have no dog in. Put it to you this way... If you like analog use analog. If you like software use software. If you like both use both. If you like software and can make it sound good and make nice music that doesn't sound like like msz can I am even going to buy your music. I don't care what the you used to make your record as long as the finished product is good. That is all I am going to say here. The mod gonna lock this thread any minute now tho so ;) |
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| theterran |
| quote: | Originally posted by Twilothunder23
The mod gonna lock this thread any minute now tho so ;) |
Probably not, the thread is too hilarious for that...Plus, nobody's stooped to name calling yet. |
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| Mad for Brad |
well if that is the case then I might as well go for it
I hate polish people. There said it. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
not to downplay his legacy but Bob isn't really at an age where he can make audio comparisons. I mean his hearing must be down to like 8 kHz. But I do agree with you. |
That would be ing incredible if he could hear down to 8 khz.
considering he died 3 years ago :nervous: |
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| Mad for Brad |
didn't know that
i still say moog like moo as in cow because it sounds cooler than mogue. I also mispronounce neumann to piss off people. |
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| Twilothunder23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
didn't know that
i still say moog like moo as in cow because it sounds cooler than mogue. I also mispronounce neumann to piss off people. |
Who cares what the you do? :rolleyes: |
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| Mad for Brad |
my fans
So are you like a member of the thunderbirds or something ? Or do you wrestle on the weekend. |
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| Raphie |
Exactly, Bob's is your uncle, guess none of you actually played a real Voyager. :D
VSTi 's are valid in thier own right, but there at mimicing analoque gear..... |
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| Twilothunder23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mad for Brad
my fans |
You don't have any fans you delusional fuck.
| quote: | | Originally posted by Mad for Brad So are you like a member of the thunderbirds or something ? Or do you wrestle on the weekend. |
Only bitches answer questions with questions bitchboy. This thread is not about me or you or what you like to call stuff. :rolleyes:
Get it right. this thread is about the obsession or perceived obsession with analog. Got it? If you like to talk about the stuff you like to do start a new thead called ''what Fag For Brad likes to do'' You won't see me post in that bitch. You know why? I don't care.:whip:
Now beat it. :disbelief |
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