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When will the obsession with "analog" stop? (pg. 19)
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by Robotrance
i could challenge you to make anything close to what ive made too using analog gear :) |
That's not what we're discussing.
If you want to recreate the sound of early-mid 90's analog techno/acid, for instance, you can only do so by using the same analog gear they used. You will never be able to achieve that sound with digital/vsts, no matter how much compression you use or how much time you spend. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by Robotrance
maybe but that has nothing to do with the fact that their output is analog electrical signals. |
Nobody is discussing output.
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i bet if you asked these engineers how frustrating it was to work with analog unpredictable distorting circuits you would have a different mind. |
Different mind about what? The fact that they sound different?
| quote: | | it just happened to be analog at that time when product engineering was at peak time quality and innovation. digital music will have its wave too. |
I never said digital is bad. It's different. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| I dunno about any of that, but isn't that like saying you can recreate the exact sound of analog using vsts/digital? |
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| inversoundzzz |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
nope |
lmao......typical cognitive dissonance...look, I for one am not even saying digital is better than analaog/....it really is but...all I m saying is it's equal in terms of sound quality......maybe back even 5 years ago, it wasnt....but not taday.....our technology is way too advanced |
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| Raphie |
| quote: | Originally posted by inversoundzzz
lmao......typical cognitive dissonance...look, I for one am not even saying digital is better than analaog/....it really is but...all I m saying is it's equal in terms of sound quality......maybe back even 5 years ago, it wasnt....but not taday.....our technology is way too advanced |
You are like that guy that plays Grand turismo on the PS3 and then goes to the Porsche forums, telling everyone the new 911 drives like ...... You know how dumb you sound flogging other peoples opinions on stuff you clearly don't comprehend, neither have experience with? |
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| TranceElevation |
| quote: | Originally posted by Robotrance
the same thing will happen in the digital domain, someone clever doing something not originally intended creating an amazing new wave of creating sounds. |
This is an interesting concept.
I like your progressive thinking and your capacity to envision things. |
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| Raphie |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
This is an interesting concept.
I like your progressive thinking and your capacity to envision things. |
yeah, but then again, that happens in every domain, analogue or digital :D |
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| Innocence Lost |
| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
You are like that guy that plays Grand turismo on the PS3 and then goes to the Porsche forums, telling everyone the new 911 drives like ...... You know how dumb you sound flogging other peoples opinions on stuff you clearly don't comprehend, neither have experience with? |
You tell em raph..:whip: |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by Robotrance
...before the digital revolution will kill the entire analog market. |
I think the only reason most companies are not making analog anymore is because it's much more costly than making digital, and there's much less profit to be made.
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...it will be the dead on hardware. ...it would be the end of all other synths. |
Is that why analog synths and analog drum machines are more costly and more in demand than ever before? |
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| Raphie |
See and that's your problem. you can play with VSTi's with 5000 "oscilators" or wavetable synthesis nerve, or serum or ..... at the end of the day it still all sounds like , harsch flat, hollow stale my first Fischer Price sound.
you still don't get now do you, analog oscilators or real DCO's sound together with analog filters and output stages sound so much better than a piece of code on a PC. |
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| Innocence Lost |
| I agree with palm, digital is the future. |
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| kaboom75 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Robotrance
i dont understand how that can happen when all new synthesizers are made on the same old traditional setup of "two oscillators with sine, saw, pulse, triangle, or some FM, run through some simple 24db/oct HP/LP filters with ADSR on the filter and amp env.". theres litteraly no invention in analog equipment anymore, they are just selling out now before the digital revolution will kill the entire analog market.
think about it.
every peace of hardware mixer, synth, compressor, and other modules will be completely redundant in very short amount of time.
the day we have a powerful synth where we can draw any waveform we want ourself, with all kinds of LFO magic on any parameter like FM on the oscs, AM filters, endless of distortion possibilities, all automated the way we want, it will be the dead on hardware.
again I mention the Thor synth in Reason as a front leader on this. Its not that incredibly amazing, I do miss a few things that the other synths in Reason have, but if these three synths could be combined into one somehow, make it a VST, add some more LFO options and multiinstance options, it would be the end of all other synths. |
That synth is called Zebra. |
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