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When will the obsession with "analog" stop? (pg. 23)
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| Mr.Mystery |
| ITT: analog elitist douchebags thinking they can actually hear a difference. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceElevation
Strongly disagree. It's just the opposite specifically for psy/goa.
Early Astral Projection is unbeatable. |
Early AP and psy/goa very often used digital synths with probably analog drum machines.
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
ITT: analog elitist douchebags thinking they can actually hear a difference. |
Have you ever used analog? Once you do for a certain amount of time, you can often hear a difference. You won't find a digital clone that sounds like a 303 or a 606. |
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| TranceElevation |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Early AP and psy/goa very often used digital synths with probably analog drum machines. |
In some track may be. But I can tell you the bassline in "Kabalah" is definitely analog. In general their 90's prodcution are mainly analog.
Psy/goa sounds much more exciting to me when analog is employed.
That's not the case with uplifting where I prefer the colder digital sound. |
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| vercetti |
| quote: | Originally posted by Teezdalien
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This is so ing awesome. Best modular video by far. Thanks for posting. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| if your computer can represent it in 1s and 0s, then digital can do it. The rest is how easy or hard. |
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| Raphie |
Not quite, a computer can perfectly capture/sample and replay your voice, piano, guitar etc
But it can not yet generate these in a 100% convincing way itself.
| quote: | Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
if your computer can represent it in 1s and 0s, then digital can do it. The rest is how easy or hard. |
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| vercetti |
"how easy or hard"
Yeah this is technically correct, like the worst kind of correct :D
Yeah it comes down to how hard and at the moment it's extremely hard. Program things for years and then max out a 16 core (or Cray) with an emulation that's realistic.
And control surface issue is another can of worms.
There's a suspension of disbelief thing, like when you play a real Moog it feels like an instrument, and Monark much less so, more like a sound generating spreadsheet. Even if they did sound absolutely identical the feels in the players mind would be different. And the feels are damn important when creating music. |
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| DjStephenWiley |
Have owned and sold off many analog instruments myself.
I understand the craze to some extent, and personally believe it really all comes down to work flow. Sonically, not all analogs are created equally. What I mean by that is, it's pretty easy to find very accurate emulations of Moog and Oberheim type sounds (Monark, Diva), but you'd be hard pressed to find any software that can sound like an original microwave 1 (admittedly uses digital osc's, but EVERYTHING else is analog beyond that)
This is why I personally own a microwave 1 and will likely never sell it. There's no software out there (yet) that provides anything close to the tone it can deliver. I do think it's silly though to see people selling (and paying) 10k for a JP-8 that has been remarkably emulated by Roland's new ACB technology, or something like a Matrix 12 that fetches 4 or 5 grand yet has been faithfully emulated via Diva. |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
I do think it's silly though to see people selling (and paying) 10k for a JP-8 that has been remarkably emulated by Roland's new ACB technology |
Are you honestly saying that you think the JP-08 sounds like a Jupiter 8?
Sheesh. |
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| Richard Butler |
I got analogue, init
Bought myself a JDXA, fuk me I'm hunched over it so much I have a bad back!
Loving it, never had anything as good before |
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| Richard Butler |
Can anyone recommend a MIC that will pair up with my Roland JD XA? The retailer told me it came with one, I predicted it would not, and sure enough...
Only want to spend about £100.
I suppose a gooseneck would be convenient but it does not have to be. The synth provide phantom power.
The small JD Xi version comes with it's own MIC, but Roland said that MIC did not work well with the bigger synth.
A mate recommends Audio Technica but their £100 ish MIC says it's aimed at stage users, so I'm not too sure of it.
BTW I've spent a good few hours making some lush plucks in case anyone wants the soundbank for them, but I've not yet used them in any productions. They truly are lovely though, just make me want to sit and play all night long without opening the DAW. |
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