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How often do you go out to clubs to hear music? (pg. 5)
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjWoody
I play out every weekend, but that doesn't count. To actually go out to a club to hear good music is probably several times a year. I used to go out 2-3 times a week a few years back. This year so far, I've gone to see John Digweed back on NYE, and Sven Vath last week. My next outing is in June for PVD & July for Sasha. I may go out this weekend to network at a party I know lots of industry people are going to be at. |
hmmm, Louis, right? ;)
If so, be good to finally meet!
As for live music, I may be the weird exception, but I can count on one hand the number of bands I've seen live.
I just don't know what it is, but live has just never done it for me like clubs has. There's been a few gigs I've seen on TV that looked amazing, but then I think about the ing trek to get there, all the sweaty goobers around you, the muddy field your standing in and often a sub par system and I just start thinking I'm glad I'm on my sofa listening to this. Even at the gigs that were great, i'm happy I went but there's no drive to repeat it again.
Having said that, I ing hate live PA's in clubs, maybe nearly as much as I hate DJ's playing in live venues. I can honestly say I've never heard a club PA as good as the studio version. Miguel Migs and Lisa Shaw banged the final nail in that coffin (in fairness, not her fault, but he was god awful terrible). |
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| Stu Cox |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Having said that, I ing hate live PA's in clubs, maybe nearly as much as I hate DJ's playing in live venues. I can honestly say I've never heard a club PA as good as the studio version. |
I think it's an environment thing. In a club setting, although the DJ is the main event, his/her music becomes the 'background' - you don't feel compelled to stare at the booth the whole time, you can wander off to the bar whenever you like without feeling you're missing anything, you can quite happily chat to someone for ages without feeling you're 'talking over' the act, etc... mixing is all part of keeping that background going.
As soon as there are some more live elements involved (someone singing, someone playing the guitar, even just synths etc), there's a tendancy to watch them - so it's all eyes on the stage and people naturally dance less because they're concentrating on what's they can see.
So I don't like live acts in the middle of a night of DJs because it completely changes the atmosphere - usually for the worse. In a lot of clubs there isn't a decent stage anyway, so everyone starts staring at the corner of the room. Live acts also very rarely tailor their set to the crowd too, which is one of the best things about seeing good DJs.
I do like going to see bands when it's all about the bands though: on a big stage, where you know you're seeing this band, then having a break, then seeing the next.
I guess you go to 'see' a band, but go to 'hear' a DJ. |
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| kitphillips |
So this confirms what I thought. 35/45 people here don't go out enough to really be plugged into the scene at all, many who do go to lounges/venues where RnB, not dance is the order of the day.
This is why, IMO, this forum is stagnant. No one is going out to get inspired or hear new sounds on a regular basis.
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
This thread seems to be very DJ-centric, so a follow-up question: how often do you guys go out to clubs to hear live music? What about you guys who voted "never" - do you get out to see live bands/musicians, including live EDM acts? Do you guys have a preference? |
The question was just about music in general. There are very few live acts, which is probably why its a DJ centric thread.
| quote: | Originally posted by Andy28
Thats what we done in newcastle, takes time but you can make it work. We now get approached by labels to host tours, done our first in march and more lined up. It cost's you like but you get the people in to cover it
That what we play
She's already well educated! |
I mean post punk hardcore, not electronic hardcore;) |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
So this confirms what I thought. 35/45 people here don't go out enough to really be plugged into the scene at all, many who do go to lounges/venues where RnB, not dance is the order of the day.
This is why, IMO, this forum is stagnant. No one is going out to get inspired or hear new sounds on a regular basis. |
Funny thing is I made a thread recently asking everyone here to list the new albums they heard in 2010, and everyone got extremely hostile and defensive, and very few people listed anything at all. I believe the common line was "Just because I don't listen to albums doesn't mean I don't hear new music!" Yeah. Right.
I skewed the results slightly because I voted even though I'm not a TA producer. I put "every couple of weeks", because the number varies. When it's summer and the students have gone home, the nightlife dies here. Right now I'm in a bit of a drought - I haven't been out since the 5th April. I am going out three or four times in May, though. When it's September - December and it's the first term of university and all the students have money, the amount of good nights out is massive and I have to choose between two or three great nights every single weekend.
I also include live gigs in this tally, because I've seen quite a few live PAs recently - 00.db, Union Jack, Hardfloor, Daedelus, Teebs etc. |
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| kitphillips |
I'm so jealous of that list:eyes: I'd love to seee Union Jack, -00.db, Hardfloor and Daedelus. Of course you should, include live gigs, its just a poll about going out to listen to music in a social setting.
Where did you make that thread? I get the impression that Music Discussion guys actually listen to new music, but production studio people don't. Probably why I'm bored of this place, the same questions keep coming up about deadmau5 and Sean Tyas because no one really goes out and listens to more obscure interesting music. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| I made it in this section. Obviously it'd be a totally different story in MD, which is why we have threads like Your Album Of The Year there, with 50+ replies. |
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| evo8 |
| Usually when i go out clubbing its always the really simple tracks that get the biggest reaction, unfortunately they also seem to be the hardest ones to make |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I made it in this section. Obviously it'd be a totally different story in MD, which is why we have threads like Your Album Of The Year there, with 50+ replies. |
That doesn't surprise me then. People around here can't name albums they like or anything. The vocab extends to tiesto, armin and tyas pretty much. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
Where did you make that thread? I get the impression that Music Discussion guys actually listen to new music, but production studio people don't. Probably why I'm bored of this place, the same questions keep coming up about deadmau5 and Sean Tyas because no one really goes out and listens to more obscure interesting music. |
Same happens in other forums I visit. People ask about popular producer X and the regulars get tired of it.
Most EDM forums revolve around sound design, mixing, and mastering. This isn't just TA, this is practically every forum out there...
The stuff I am interested in; melody, rhythm and form; rarely gets discussed.
The feedback in the production forum is usually engineering based, the discussion here on the main forum is usually sound design or mixing based, so where does that leave the community as a whole? Should it really surprise anyone that there's a surplus of engineers with little to no actual song writers?
Try and answer the following questions(if you're brave enough):
What is the world's most famous rhythm?
Using traditional Western Harmony, complete the follow chord progression using the most likely chord:
I ii V __
What's an easy way to remember the major pentatonic scale?
Name three ways to create syncopation. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
That doesn't surprise me then. People around here can't name albums they like or anything. The vocab extends to tiesto, armin and tyas pretty much. |
I don't find albums worth the cash any more. In this day in age where I can buy a track I like and avoid the one I don't, I'm not going to bother shelling out for the entire package. Sure I may be missing the "journey" but it, most albums these days don't even know what a journey is.
I partially agree with Robbie. I don't really care all that much about what someone has produced. I care about the engineering side mostly, news about cool new synths/VSTs/FX and anything that can help me to develop my compositional skills more without needing to spend the next 20 years at music school.
The lack of finished tracks comes down to my own personal laziness and inability to force myself to polish off good ideas, not because I lack any sort of inspiration due to apparently not clubbing enough or reading a good enough topic on a forum.
You have kids these days, just like you had in the past smashing out hits. What clubs are they all attending? I think you put far too much emphasis on going "clubbing" as a necessity to producing good music.
It's meant to be art, a form of expression. Last time I checked, people get inspired in different ways. One painter might need to see one type of work to be inspired, while another may wake up one day and have a vision of what he wants to paint, without any outside influence. I don't see why music has to be any different. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
I don't find albums worth the cash any more. In this day in age where I can buy a track I like and avoid the one I don't, I'm not going to bother shelling out for the entire package. Sure I may be missing the "journey" but it, most albums these days don't even know what a journey is. |
And you would know, not bothering to listen to them. Right? I found more great albums in 2010 than in any other year. Blathering on with the typical ignorant and conservative platitudes about music "these days" suggests only one thing: you aren't listening to any good music.
And the music most people in here are making isn't highly artistic, either. It's club music and so it should be informed by the dancefloor. The list of people who made great dance music laterally, without any connection to the dancefloor, is very short and it's delusional to think you're going to rank up there with those people. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
I don't find albums worth the cash any more. In this day in age where I can buy a track I like and avoid the one I don't, I'm not going to bother shelling out for the entire package. Sure I may be missing the "journey" but it, most albums these days don't even know what a journey is.
I partially agree with Robbie. I don't really care all that much about what someone has produced. I care about the engineering side mostly, news about cool new synths/VSTs/FX and anything that can help me to develop my compositional skills more without needing to spend the next 20 years at music school.
The lack of finished tracks comes down to my own personal laziness and inability to force myself to polish off good ideas, not because I lack any sort of inspiration due to apparently not clubbing enough or reading a good enough topic on a forum.
You have kids these days, just like you had in the past smashing out hits. What clubs are they all attending? I think you put far too much emphasis on going "clubbing" as a necessity to producing good music.
It's meant to be art, a form of expression. Last time I checked, people get inspired in different ways. One painter might need to see one type of work to be inspired, while another may wake up one day and have a vision of what he wants to paint, without any outside influence. I don't see why music has to be any different. |
You'd be rare to find a painter anywhere who didn't collaborate with like minded individuals to share ideas and inspiration. doesn't get produced in a void, and if the inspiration you're working off is ten years old, your sound will be dated and stale.
If you can't find good albums then you have a problem. Go to the music discussion board and hang around and see what you can find. In a world where free podcasts can be had in 10 minutes, there's no excuse not to expose yourself to great music. After that, you can decide if its worth the cash to buy, but you need to look into it. Not going out and discovering interesting stuff is the real laziness. |
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