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Going back to PC (pg. 4)
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| Magnus |
| PC all the way. I always build mine via parts from Newegg or Amazon, and have never had an issue. Rock solid stability. Also, the prices of hardware are some of the lowest I've ever seen, so it's a great time to build a system. I'm actually preparing to build a new one myself rather soon. Good luck with whatever you decide! |
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| jayxthekoolest |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnus
PC all the way. I always build mine via parts from Newegg or Amazon, and have never had an issue. Rock solid stability. Also, the prices of hardware are some of the lowest I've ever seen, so it's a great time to build a system. I'm actually preparing to build a new one myself rather soon. Good luck with whatever you decide! |
Everything but HD are cheap. With the floods in Taiwan, HD prices went up. I think the HD I bought was 200% more expensive due to the flooding. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
Honestly, who would want to use an Imac to produce EDM?! |
actually for edm an imac is fine
But i need the 32 gigs of ram, 6 drive sata connection ors , the 2 gigabit lans .... |
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| tehlord |
| quote: | Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
Motherboard (not sure why other person recommended against ASUS, my current board is working perfectly fine): |
Because not only am I having problems with mine (freezes that require an inexplicable requirement to swap all HDD's to a different SATA channel which then solves the issue for a week or a month) but upon further investigation so are many other people having issues with Asus boards as well.
You also don't want to go for a gaming capable (read ing loud) GPU either. The most basic passively cooled card is ideal.
The Antec P series are widely regarded as being really quiet (structurally) although some apparently had noisy case fans which can be swapped out for quieter $20 alternatives. Obviously Dave's experience wasn't that great.
You're at the end of the current Intel Sandybridge lifecycle and the new Ivybridge are due in the next couple of months. As a man of financial means it may be worth waiting for that if you can, although the current CPU's aren't exactly slow and you'll still get 3 years out of a well specified build. |
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| jayxthekoolest |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
Because not only am I having problems with mine (freezes that require an inexplicable requirement to swap all HDD's to a different SATA channel which then solves the issue for a week or a month) but upon further investigation so are many other people having issues with Asus boards as well.
You also don't want to go for a gaming capable (read ing loud) GPU either. The most basic passively cooled card is ideal.
The Antec P series are widely regarded as being really quiet (structurally) although some apparently had noisy case fans which can be swapped out for quieter $20 alternatives. Obviously Dave's experience wasn't that great.
You're at the end of the current Intel Sandybridge lifecycle and the new Ivybridge are due in the next couple of months. As a man of financial means it may be worth waiting for that if you can, although the current CPU's aren't exactly slow and you'll still get 3 years out of a well specified build. |
Ah, sorry to hear that about your computer. Perhaps I just got lucky. But then again, hardware does have like a 2% failure rate, so if the 2% is posting online then it can seem like everyone is having problems.
As for graphics cards I can see what you're saying. However, mine really isn't very loud and has never been an issue for me. Like I've never noticed it when producing.
Also, at this point it would be smart to wait for Intel's new line of processors, unless you need a computer in the next week or so. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
you never buy new. EVeryone knows that. You always aim for middle ground. So it has been tested and any kinks revealed. IT isn't a question of cost, it is just illogical to buy new parts for audio. By new i mean like things just released.
I still have another mac pro that has replaced the other one as the main computer but It still sucks as the other had everything installed that I use for music. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by tehlord
The Antec P series are widely regarded as being really quiet (structurally) although some apparently had noisy case fans which can be swapped out for quieter $20 alternatives. Obviously Dave's experience wasn't that great.
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Yeah, it was entirely due to the fans. The Antecs are very well-built, but the fans in all the ones I've used have been unbearably loud and could actually be heard in all of my recordings. Before I replaced the case last year, I stuck a mic in the middle of the room and recorded the ambient noise, then moved everything into the Lian-Li and did the same thing at the same settings. I should dig that A/B recording up and post it - the difference is astounding. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
Honestly, who would want to use an Imac to produce EDM?! |
Erm, possibly the dumbest thing I've seen in this thread (and that's saying something).
Imac's are the highest ratio of performance vs value from any Apple product. It's actually the imac (and MBP) that is killing the macpro, as their performance is getting close to that of mac pros, at a fraction of the cost.
I have a 4 year old imac that hasn't once choked on me (apart from doing the mandatory RobyRox performance test of 16 instances of omnisphere).
Eddie is exactly right about gaming options being useless - for the last time I wish people would stop thinking gaming specs or kit will help you with DAW setups. Refresh rates will not assist your soundcard. Neither will will crappy 7.1 built in soundcard chips.
@jaxy - you stopped using your macbook because you were having memory issues? My car analogy earlier in this thread could not be more appropriate, lol. Dude, get some different RAM. Dump the P-Ram. Do a fresh install in case of a software conflict. This isn't rocket science. This proves the theory mac users are more stupid than PC users.
Don;t get me wrong - I use both PC and mac and each have their faults and each have their positives but I hate how all PC sellers (apart from dedicated audio builders who try to shaft you on price) are becoming more and more about gaming. I get it, it's their main market, but so much of the gaming spec criteria (as thelord pointed out) goes completely against what is required or even best practice for audio production.
@Richie - I need some more info about this intermittent fault; does it happen after you mac goes to sleep? How long can you use it for before it shuts down? Have you tried removing each of you HDD one by one and doing a test. I know the power draw of some SSD's can overload the PSU.
Give me a full rundown and I'm sure it can be easily fixed. |
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| jayxthekoolest |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Erm, possibly the dumbest thing I've seen in this thread (and that's saying something).
Imac's are the highest ratio of performance vs value from any Apple product. It's actually the imac (and MBP) that is killing the macpro, as their performance is getting close to that of mac pros, at a fraction of the cost.
I have a 4 year old imac that hasn't once choked on me (apart from doing the mandatory RobyRox performance test of 16 instances of omnisphere).
Eddie is exactly right about gaming options being useless - for the last time I wish people would stop thinking gaming specs or kit will help you with DAW setups. Refresh rates will not assist your soundcard. Neither will will crappy 7.1 built in soundcard chips.
@jaxy - you stopped using your macbook because you were having memory issues? My car analogy earlier in this thread could not be more appropriate, lol. Dude, get some different RAM. Dump the P-Ram. Do a fresh install in case of a software conflict. This isn't rocket science. This proves the theory mac users are more stupid than PC users.
Don;t get me wrong - I use both PC and mac and each have their faults and each have their positives but I hate how all PC sellers (apart from dedicated audio builders who try to shaft you on price) are becoming more and more about gaming. I get it, it's their main market, but so much of the gaming spec criteria (as thelord pointed out) goes completely against what is required or even best practice for audio production.
@Richie - I need some more info about this intermittent fault; does it happen after you mac goes to sleep? How long can you use it for before it shuts down? Have you tried removing each of you HDD one by one and doing a test. I know the power draw of some SSD's can overload the PSU.
Give me a full rundown and I'm sure it can be easily fixed. |
Sorry I was just sayin I wouldn't use an Imac for producing EDM because I, personally, think it just looks awkward, ugly and can only see gay people using it. I wasn't making any point about performance issues. It definitely has enough power.
As for my laptop. I think there was a bigger issue than just the RAM. I wasn't running out of RAM, and my RAM was working properly - but the laptop kept giving me out of memory errors. Therefore, upgrading it would be pointless. That was the point of saying that. Also, I switched to a desktop in order to get more processing power and as a personal preference.
And I seriously don't understand why people get upset over having a "gamer" PC. Then again, I like to play games... |
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| Seandroid |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceLover007
Yeah, I feel your pain man, we bought our Mac Pro in August 2011 and after 4 months hard drive went south, guess what, we didn't backup data, damn it Mac should be stable and reliable, I though!!!, but my (self build) PC is going without any problem for about 2 years (AMD)
I will definitely stay with PC for now.
Cheers,
Darek |
A hard drive going has nothing to do with the reliability of your computer. It can and WILL happen to every computer ever made. Not a matter of if, a matter of when. Not having your data backed up is a horrendous idea. |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
A hard drive going has nothing to do with the reliability of your computer. |
You can say this about almost anything in computers (like HD, graphics card, memory, controllers, ........), but I never heard this before (about Mac) that HD was bad after only 4 months!
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
Not having your data backed up is a horrendous idea. |
With backup, I learn my lesson hard way lol.
Cheers,
Darek |
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| david.michael |
| The nice thing about data backup on Macs is that Time Machine makes it so easy, a caveman could do it. |
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