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Going back to PC (pg. 5)
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
......., a caveman could do it. |
So looks like my future is really promising (a specially in caveman commercials lol).
Cheers,
Darek |
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| Sean Walsh |
| quote: | Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
As for my laptop. I think there was a bigger issue than just the RAM. I wasn't running out of RAM, and my RAM was working properly - but the laptop kept giving me out of memory errors. Therefore, upgrading it would be pointless. That was the point of saying that. Also, I switched to a desktop in order to get more processing power and as a personal preference.
And I seriously don't understand why people get upset over having a "gamer" PC. Then again, I like to play games... |
As a programmer in the video games industry, we deal with Laptop related bull all the time when the specs themselves are more than capable of running our software. In your particular case, you might have had some faulty RAM, or as is commonly the case with laptops, just had some overheating issues.
Unless you're hopping on flights twice a week or are otherwise always on the road, there's no point whatsoever in getting a laptop for production. If you also need a laptop for DJ'ing, that's fine, but shell out for both and you'll be way happier producing on the desktop. |
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| TranceElevation |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
Sorry I was just sayin I wouldn't use an Imac for producing EDM because I, personally, think it just looks awkward, ugly and can only see gay people using it. I wasn't making any point about performance issues. It definitely has enough power.
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Lol, see as a computer (regardless of form), it's probably one of (if not) the most efficient designs you can get. It has the smallest physical footprint for any computer of that performance and it's built like a tank. The thing is so damn quiet I can only tell if it's on when the screen it lit. There's a reason all the PC manufacturers tried to flood the market it with screen based PC's. It's an elegant solution - they proved you don't need a separate base unit and monitor to get great performance.
I suppose it's a difference of opinion - I find those hideously ugly, led lit, water cooled gaming stations a clear sign of raging pubescent latent homosexuality. Ga(y)ming - see, even phonetically it's gay,
| quote: | Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
As for my laptop. I think there was a bigger issue than just the RAM. I wasn't running out of RAM, and my RAM was working properly - but the laptop kept giving me out of memory errors. Therefore, upgrading it would be pointless. That was the point of saying that. Also, I switched to a desktop in order to get more processing power and as a personal preference. |
No need to upgrade the ram as such, I would have just pulled it out altogether (or borrowed another brand from someone) to test. Don't forget RAM is incredibly cheap and one stick malfunctioning can completely screw up your entire system. For instance I had always just had 1gb or RAM in my imac but started using some more samples and RAM intensive plugins so finally decided to pull the RAM. Guess what? I found that MacMall had put the wrong speed in there when I bought it so it was operating at about 75% of it's full potential. It sounds like you don't really know what caused the problem but the logical thing would be to look at the cheap replaceable thing that the error message alludes to (RAM) rather than blaming the computer as a whole.
| quote: | Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
And I seriously don't understand why people get upset over having a "gamer" PC. Then again, I like to play games... |
No upset or hate - I just don;t think the criteria for gaming PC's have any place in a serious discussion about DAW's. |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| so i'm at a loss. Left it unplugged for 2 days. Now it works. But if it isn't stable, it isnt usable. Will just wait a week. |
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| Teezdalien |
| see... macs are so awesome they can fix themselves. :p |
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| Looney4Clooney |
| maybe it was depressed. I don;'t know,. I tried unplugging it for a long time. We will see what happens. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
No upset or hate - I just don;t think the criteria for gaming PC's have any place in a serious discussion about DAW's. |
It's essentially the same thing minus the insane GPU needs. People will still tend to go with a Gigabyte Mobo (a lot of them come with a Texas Instruments Firewire Chip), a WD or Seagate HDD and blisteringly fast RAM. The processor will be top end, so the same. The case will often be the same, though will cost a little more if you want to go for something a bit quieter. The Lian-Li cases are awesome and let's not forget that often the noisiest part of a gaming PC is the GPU, but you can get a quiet and cheap one for a production PC.
All that's really left is quiet fans, and you're good to go. |
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| Raphie |
agreed, i would not classify PC's in ranks
ofcourse marketing material and packaging aside
but if you're able to look beyond that, Fledz and the others are right
look at quality mobo with the chipset you want and other quality components.And it will be as good or better than a MAC |
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| Seandroid |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceLover007
You can say this about almost anything in computers (like HD, graphics card, memory, controllers, ........), but I never heard this before (about Mac) that HD was bad after only 4 months!
With backup, I learn my lesson hard way lol.
Cheers,
Darek |
Actually you can't. The hard drive is a moving physical part, GPU and memory controllers are solid state. hard drives are extremely unpredictable.
The simple fact is, you got a bad hard drive. That doesn't reflect badly on Macs. The hard drives in Apple computers are the same as the hard drives in PCs, the hard drive in my current iMac is made by Seagate...
And Apple would have replaced it under warranty... |
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| TranceLover007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
Actually you can't. The hard drive is a moving physical part, GPU and memory controllers are solid state. hard drives are extremely unpredictable.
The simple fact is, you got a bad hard drive. That doesn't reflect badly on Macs. The hard drives in Apple computers are the same as the hard drives in PCs, the hard drive in my current iMac is made by Seagate...
And Apple would have replaced it under warranty... |
I know where you are coming from and understand your point of view man, but at the same time you have to consider this simple fact that you are buying Mac computer and not Mac with (in your case) Seagate HD (in my case is Hitachi) – you are buying whole package with warranty from Mac on everything what is in it. Every repair effect their bottom line and has impact on their reputation. They have very rigoristic and strict process of selecting specific vendors for all of those components which will be instal in their computers ( + assembly quality control and testing is very complex and complicated procedure).
Also Solid Stage parts doesn’t necessary mean is better quality and reliability (at this moment), I'm still using one of my WD HD 20GB which I got over 6 years ago lol.
I hope that L4C will base his opinion not only of our two comment but on everyone else commenting in this thread , my only $0.02.
Cheers,
Darek |
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| Fledz |
Not really. Their parts are supplied by the same manufacturers in Asia that supply other brands. You're not getting any super awesome quality components just because you're buying a Mac.
The point is hardware is hardware. happens, and things fail. As Sean said, moving parts are susceptible to breaking. Paying more and purchasing better brands helps to minimise this but no machine is ever going to be completely safe. It's why people still back up.
In terms of SSD, the best setup at the moment is your OS on one and everything else on HDDs in Raid configuration. |
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