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Daft Punk's new album (pg. 14)
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| enydo |
| and behigh yourself |
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| enydo |
| I'm going to practice mixing L.I.E.S records because I trainwreck them constantly. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Well, I think Daft Punk have a far larger fanbase than just 15-25 year olds, and I also think it's a bit silly to base our critical framework of their material on demographics detailed in brightly coloured pie charts currently being enthusiastically pointed at by some android executive in a boardroom high above the streets of Mega City One in the upper reaches of the glittering corporate ziggurat that is Sony Music's headquarters.
I also think Daft Punk are more or less the most popular act in dance music, rightly or wrongly, so their work is subject to a much higher volume of discussion and analysis than it perhaps deserves. I think they have also made some ostentatious comments in press-releases about how fake electronic music sounds and how they've made a point of using live musicians for this album, which elevates their change in methodology from a creatively-exhausted band trying to reinvigorate their process to Daft Punk opening their work up to broadside cynicism if it fails to live up to the grandiose billing. I've heard the lead single a few times and even without analysing the technical and musical aspects it seems wholly regressive and defunct to me, basically a repeat of what acts like Chromeo were doing 7 years ago, which themselves were obvious pastiches of a large pantheon of prior music, and so Daft Punk are open to all kinds of justifiable critical sniping as to their conservatism, even if the album is perfectly fine on a technical level.
Most of all, I think this isn't the first time Ritchie has started a thread just to on the new Daft Punk release in an extremely belligerent style, and from the moment he clicked New Thread he was just gagging for someone to take issue at him being so aggressively dismissive of what is, at worst, a mediocre dance record so he could launch into his usual patterns of self-gratifying condescension and abuse, because he is a childish clown with self-confessed social dysfunctions. The fact so many people are camped in this thread offering up -awful responses to his baiting rather than seeing the blindingly obvious means this thread is an irredeemable cluster- full of stupid people arguing past each other about nothing, while somewhere in the background a valid discussion fails to materialise. All there's left to do is pull up a deck chair, crack open a cold tin and mock everyone who wanders into your cross-hairs. |
Not quite what I was getting at with my post, but I do agree with almost everything you said. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| The important distinction is that Daft Punk are not a manufactured act or a relentless money-making machine. I get the impression they've made their paymasters so much money just by doing their own thing that they have complete freedom in the studio, so any weaknesses in the record have nothing to do with how that record subsequently gets marketed. I also think you'd have to be dead inside not to admit Daft Punk have made some great tracks in their time, and they should be judged against what they're capable of. |
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| Evolve140 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The important distinction is that Daft Punk are not a manufactured act or a relentless money-making machine. I get the impression they've made their paymasters so much money just by doing their own thing that they have complete freedom in the studio, so any weaknesses in the record have nothing to do with how that record subsequently gets marketed. I also think you'd have to be dead inside not to admit Daft Punk have made some great tracks in their time, and they should be judged against what they're capable of. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I get the impression they've made their paymasters so much money just by doing their own thing... |
I agree with that...
| quote: | | ... that they have complete freedom in the studio, so any weaknesses in the record have nothing to do with how that record subsequently gets marketed. |
... and respectfully disagree with that. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| Perhaps if they'd turned in the next Sun O))))) album the money-men might have been twitchy, but I certainly don't believe the suits were banging on the studio door and shouting "Oi Bangaltar, don't waste too much time on the mixdown, we've already paid for Nile Rodgers! We're only targeting 15-25 year olds as our core demographic, and they don't give a !" |
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| Floorfiller |
I haven't had a chance to listen to the album yet just the few snip bits of samples from a month or two ago, but this is my impression leading up to the release.
the Daft Punk duo have always been passionate about that era of music. They grew up on it. So when they say stuff like they have been about wanting to capture that same feeling with live instruments I totally get it. I don't think it's a stunt or an attempt to be innovative, i think it's more out of genuine love for that style of music.
whether or not they succeeded at that is a different story, but i don't think this is just a gimmick. i think it's more about them making the music they always wanted to. |
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| Rodri Santos |
you never have freedom ir you are targeting to an audience, if additonally you pretend to sell.... absolutely not. You could make music that is exactly what you want to hear but what about the others... maybe i love cowbell on every 4th beat but it's not something people like (apparently) so there's no freedom.
But yes, i get the idea, however their own style does not need much commercial pressure as his tracks are vocal, funky and no sharp elements so i think they rarely get a finger down from their boss about a track.
Good thing about albums is that sometimes the fillers are the good tracks, same as side B/C tracks i notice this in a lot of artists, side A is like 99% of the genre tracks, the side B seems to be a lot more artistic. |
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