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Tiësto No. 1 - But why? (pg. 4)
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| mndeg |
who cares, stop bashing
trance could have a WAY worse #1 "person"
like dj sammy or whatnot |
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| basvh |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cobalt
Some of those may have been true in the past, but today they are little more than overblown delusions. People fool themselves into believing such superlatives simply because of the hype machine. |
well I think that it aren't delusions and I don't base them because of the hype machine.
I aint a tiesto die hard fan, or a trance whore. My party and musical behavior goes from 60 000 strong dance valley festival to 400 people witnissing a Sander K set to whopping UK hardhouse in the center of amsterdam to seeing Carl cox playing last week in Rotterdam.
I have seen a lot of DJ's in various countrys. But everytime I see tiesto I am still blown away when he drops the right tune at the right moment. Also his interaction and charisma makes it possible to connect with the crowd who are near the booth but also all the way back.
You can say that he is gone a bit too commercial nowadays and well his mixing is sloppy although his mixing never was spot on.
I really enjoyed Tic last october, much better then the first one. I hope his new mix album and dutch club tour will be great. |
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| auranaut |
| quote: | Originally posted by basvh
I have seen a lot of DJ's in various countrys. But everytime I see tiesto I am still blown away when he drops the right tune at the right moment. Also his interaction and charisma makes it possible to connect with the crowd who are near the booth but also all the way back.
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Please explain. How does he connect with the crowd? How does he interact with them? And what's this about dropping the right track at the right time? |
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| Project 7 |
| Its simple Tiesto was great 5-6 years ago, the fact he is still at the top in polls means nothing. He is simply hulk hogan of the trance world. |
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| mdk |
Discussion number.. 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Who cares? Some people like him, some don't.
Respect each others opinion, and make the world a happy place.
Peace :p |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
I think Tiesto does the best job of releasing pretty quality dj mixes on cd. His livesets may suck, but seriously, how many people are introduced to trance through livesets? You can't argue that the ISOS series isn't good, and that series lines up pretty well with his time of ascent in the lists (2000-2002).
If you look at his mixed albums, you can tell when he became popular. The Forbidden Paradise series was pretty gritty and underground; the Magik series was becoming more mainstream -- and the infamous Amsterdam Magik was 2000. ISOS and Summerbreeze marked his completion into a bigtime commercial dj.
I think his compilations are the main reasons he became so big so fast. Like Oakie in 98 (w/ Tranceport) his name got out there very quickly due to ISOS, and his popularity wasn't far behind. Now he's kind of just riding the wave, and we're all waiting to see how soon (and how far) he falls back down.
And seriously, look at how many entries his discogs has:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/DJ+Ti%EBsto
That's a lot of avenues through which a dj can be heard. |
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| Cobalt |
| quote: | Originally posted by basvh
But everytime I see tiesto I am still blown away when he drops the right tune at the right moment. Also his interaction and charisma makes it possible to connect with the crowd who are near the booth but also all the way back. |
I saw Tiesto in 2003 and recently, and both times I did not feel he was attuned to the crowd at all. He seemed to drop tracks at random, with little sense of flow, and did not interact beyond token gestures designed to conicide theatrically with his recognizeable hits. His effort in playing felt insincere and poorly thought, with focus not on the set but instead on his icon self. At a live event, as I'm sure you know given what you've said, you can feel if people are genuinely into the set that's being played. Both times with Tiesto, I didn't feel the crowd was. This was even more true for his recent performance at Ultra which I attended; the set felt aimless and flat, the only significant reaction being a seeming forced enthusiasm for Love Comes Again and Adagio, predictable anthems people are supposed to hoot over.
Perhaps your opinion is based on other experiences, but livesets I've heard only reinforce my impression from seeing him live. I really, genuinely gave him a chance at Ultra this year, but he disappointed me again, proving further his reliance on marketing and hype over substance.
Nevermind the perversity of calling an event devoted to DJ worship a "concert". |
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| Cobalt |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I think his compilations are the main reasons he became so big so fast. Like Oakie in 98 (w/ Tranceport) his name got out there very quickly due to ISOS, and his popularity wasn't far behind. Now he's kind of just riding the wave, and we're all waiting to see how soon (and how far) he falls back down. |
In part, I agree. Tiesto's compliations are all rather solid, particularly the ISOS series. If only they mirrored his actual ability live today. I think it also had a lot to do with being in the right place in the right time to fill a figurehead void in trance, with Oakenfold being swept into the dustbin and the progressive headliners rejecting trance entirely. |
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| basvh |
Well if you see Tiesto it is great or it sucks. Too bad it sucked for you last times.
The last two sets I heard tiesto live was his just be release party and Tic last october. Those nights were great and had a good time. Maybe I can totally be objectivily enough because I didnt see tiesto spin in the last few months. I am still in doubt to go to his isos4 release party in amsterdam, on that same night there is also a party with deep dish and sander kleinenberg. humm choices choices |
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| iammesol |
| quote: | Originally posted by auranaut
And this, people, is why Tiesto fans are absolutely retarded. |
some ppl could give a about technicality, as Sasha once said "all that matters is whats coming out of the ing speakers" :rolleyes: |
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| iammesol |
| Tiësto does all that a dj is supposed to do. He makes ppl jump off their asses and dance. He interacts with the crowd, smiling, jumping around, and acknowledging ppl when they yell his name. If thats not a good enough answer, please turn your trash talk switch off |
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| Ultraphase |
| quote: | Originally posted by iammesol
some ppl could give a about technicality, as Sasha once said "all that matters is whats coming out of the ing speakers" :rolleyes: |
Well, what's going into the mixer is coming out the speakers. And as No. 1 DJ of the world, the "trance-in-public-representing" should have more then just a good taste for music. So, ask yourself: Does Tiësto represent the worldwide trance community?
| quote: | Originally posted by mdk
Respect each others opinion, and make the world a happy place.
Peace |
Who doesn't? I do even tolerate black music. |
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