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| Omega_Blue |
| wow. my condolences go out to everyone. |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
very true, however, the fact remains that the present situation was not forseeable by those that laid the foundation for it, therefore, the "chickens coming home to roost" post was unfounded. |
precisely. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
An illogical response. If it is our way of life they seek to destroy we cannot allow ourselves to forsake our values in order to fight them. Killing millions of people just because they live in an area of the world where these militants happen to hail from would go against all that we as people value. If we do that then they will have succeeded in destabalizing our society, which is their ultimate goal. Besides, not all the terrorists are in the middle east, those who survive will rise up and those that formerally did not support the terrorists certainly would as a reactionary measure to the autrocities we unleased in retaliation. |
So ... we just let them keep blowing up and killing our innocent civilians? |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
I'm still trying to get in contact with my sister who is in London with her friends today. What the are you supposed to think at times like this? :( |
If you are trying to reach her via cellular phone and not having success I would imagine that this is because the networks are likely full. Remain calm, I'm sure you'll reach her, chances are she was no where near any of the explosions. |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
So ... we just let them keep blowing up and killing our innocent civilians? |
No, we prove ourselves to be above them by going after only those who are involved, It's not the thing many people (me inc) would want to do, but it's the best thing to do imho, why lower ourselves all to that level |
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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
If you think invading Iraq made anything but targets out of these countries than you sir are a fool. |
The radical muslims would be doing this anyways, even if we didnt invade Iraq or Afganistan. They wont be happy until the whole world is in a Muslim state & living in misery. |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
The radical muslims would be doing this anyways, even if we didnt invade Iraq or Afganistan. They wont be happy until the whole world is in a Muslim state & living in misery. |
in this case however, many muslims would have been in london & maybe caught up, does any 'god' of theirs openly condone killing their own for a cause ? it shouldn't |
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| [N]ûk|êû[Z] |
after 9/11 i guess this was innevitable, just a matter of time. glad to see the police are on top of everything, and things are already getting back to normal in some of the targets. as silly as it sounds, thankfully this was only a smaller scale attack, BUT who knows what else is planned for tomorrow... next week.. or in the coming months or years. its ing preposterous how we must sit around, try to get on with our own lives with that 0.01% of our minds thinking 'when is this gonna happen next?' we just dont ing know!
i dont wanna sound like an idiot or anything, but i think its high-time we do something about it.
my sympathies go to the families of the average joe on his way to work at mcdonalds, or the guy on the way to the office [or whatever] killed maliciously in cold blood and cowardice.
my respects to the familes and ofcourse the victims |
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| DJ Lucas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scanate
How?:mad: |
1. See to it that they are not taught to hate by any means possible. This is how it all begins.
2. Deport the ones who already do
3. Kill or imprision the ones actively planning
4. Stricter immigration laws
5. Do not fold like Spain did (I have no fear of this....the British held back Hitler with willpower alone; I have complete confidence.) |
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| Dupz |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
Was their any type of warning from British Intelegence. Did they have any idea of this? |
apparently so..
I hear that the Israeli consulate received warning of an attack shortly before the attack. (i think someone posted the link somewhere in this thread already..) |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ian^
No, we prove ourselves to be above them by going after only those who are involved, It's not the thing many people (me inc) would want to do, but it's the best thing to do imho, why lower ourselves all to that level |
Once you capture 'only those who are involved' there are going to be 1000s more who have been trained and waiting in the wings to take the same over. It's just going to happen over and over. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
So ... we just let them keep blowing up and killing our innocent civilians? |
No but an indescriminate attack is not the answer either. I adressed this in an earlier post...
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Whence fighting an enemy who's lone goal is to disrupt or destroy an entire civilization the only ways one can win is to erradicate the enemy or break their will. As it is unconscionable to take the drastic and inhumane steps that would be required to erradicate the threat our best option is to break their will. How do we do this? By proving to the enemy that they cannot succeed, we will not be destroyed, we will not abandon that which we hold dear and have worked for centuries to build. We must show them that in a test of wills our will to survive as we are is stronger then their will to destroy us.
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