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[OFFICIAL] 2008 Major League Baseball Thread (pg. 12)
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| andrewyates |
| I try to not look much into stats until about June 1. It's such a long ass season, teams can turn it around - or lose it at any point. |
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| jonze |
| quote: | Originally posted by andrewyates
I try to not look much into stats until about June 1. |
you must not be a cubs fan. history has shown that their season is most likely over by then. |
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| Eddie N MIAMI |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonze
you must not be a cubs fan. history has shown that their season is most likely over by then. |
Cubs fans are already jumpin
shoudve been you, backwards visor guy. |
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| Eddie N MIAMI |
....and the Cubs season is officially over.
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| jonze |
i love ozzie
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3382020
If this was the pregame interview, what could Ozzie Guillen possibly have said after the Chicago White Sox lost again Sunday?
Guillen unleashed his verbal wrath before the White Sox faced the Blue Jays in Toronto, after having been asked a humorous question about a minor leaguer's recent performance and his chance at cracking the White Sox lineup.
That apparently was all it took. Guillen's profanity-laden stream of consciousness touched on Cubs fans, White Sox fans, the media, Lee Elia, and himself.
"Right now everyone in Chicago is making lineups -- 'Call up this guy, call up that guy.' ... If we had 50 people allowed on the roster, we could do that. That's what ticks me off about Chicago fans and Chicago media: They forget pretty quickly. A couple of days ago we were the [bleeping] best [stuff] in town. Now we're [bleep]," Guillen said to the aforementioned Chicago media before the game.
Guillen observed that Chicago still loved the Cubs, even though they have not won a World Series since 1908, but the White Sox -- winners of the 2005 World Series -- did not receive the same affectionate support.
"We won it a couple years ago, and we're horse[bleep]," Guillen said, according to the Chicago Tribune. "The Cubs haven't won in [100] years, and they're the [bleeping] best. [Bleep] it, we're good. [Bleep] everybody. We're horse[bleep], and we're going to be horse[bleep] the rest of our lives, no matter how many World Series we win.
"We are the [bleep] of Chicago. We're the Chicago [bleep]. We have the worst owner [Jerry Reinsdorf]. The guy's got seven [bleeping] rings, and he's the [bleeping] horse[bleep] owner."
Guillen brought up Elia, the former Cubs manager who blew his gasket over what he considered to be ungrateful, unforgiving and unsupportive Cubs fans in an infamous tirade that recently marked its 25th anniversary.
"How about the Cubs celebrating that Lee Elia bull[bleep]? How many times do I curse people out? I will make a lot of money with my [stuff]. I have to keep going because in the future Ozzie will need money, and I can say, 'Here, give me money, here's the 10-year anniversary of my time I called [Jay] Mariotti stuff and the time I went on the radio and cursed out Mike North,'" Guillen said.
The North incident Guillen referred to is from mid-May 2007, when Guillen called in to North's Chicago radio show and the two got into a spat (with Guillen providing most of the profanity). And in June 2006, Guillen lashed out at Mariotti -- a columnist with the Chicago Sun-Times and frequent contributor to ESPN's "Around the Horn" -- and referred to Mariotti using a homophobic slur.
Guillen did turn around and change the batting order before Monday night's game.
Guillen batted Orlando Cabrera leadoff for the White Sox's game against the Blue Jays. He also moved Carlos Quentin up to second and dropped Nick Swisher to sixth in the order.
On Sunday, the White Sox arranged all their bats in front of a pair of blowup dolls on a clubhouse couch in an attempt to shake the team out of its funk. It didn't work as Chicago lost its season-high fifth straight, scoring just nine runs in that span. The White Sox are batting 7-for-55 (.127) with runners in scoring position over the past eight games and an AL-worst .232 for the season.
Some Chicago fans questioned the appropriateness of having blowup dolls in the clubhouse, but Guillen had no problems with the gag.
"I'm not going to make the players apologize," he said. "I don't think that was a big deal. It's our house. I don't think we did anything wrong and I don't think we did anything to make people upset. We did something to have fun and stay loose. Those dolls don't work. .... Hopefully we come up with something better. We don't need dolls, we need hits."
Guillen believes the pressure to shake off the slump is getting to some of his hitters, causing them to swing at pitches out of the strike zone.
"They're not getting us out, we get ourselves out," Guillen said. "At the beginning of the season we took a lot of pitches and got a lot of people on base. Now, I won't say we're panicking, but we're a little anxious to carry the load.
"You can't push the panic button," he added. "We've just got to swing at better pitches. I think we're fine if we start swinging at strikes."
The White Sox had been in first place in their division from April 15 until Saturday night, but are on a five-game losing streak and now 1½ games behind the Minnesota Twins.
"People are panicking," Guillen said. "Did we play a real bad week? Yes, we did, we stunk. But it wasn't too long ago that we were 'the biggest surprise in baseball, wow, look at the White Sox.'" |
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| verndogs |
| Are the Tampa Bay Rays for real? I vote yes! |
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| Trance Nutter |
Can anyone fill me in on how the Padres and Cleveland have been going since the end of April?
When I left the US, Sabathia was looking like he was starting to come out of his funk. |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
Can anyone fill me in on how the Padres and Cleveland have been going since the end of April?
When I left the US, Sabathia was looking like he was starting to come out of his funk. |
San Diego can't hit the ball to save their lives
CC Sabathia hasn't been that good: 3-5 with a 5.42 ERA
PS: Did you get to hit Petco Park? |
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| Member of X |
| quote: | Originally posted by verndogs
San Diego can't hit the ball to save their lives
CC Sabathia hasn't been that good: 3-5 with a 5.42 ERA
PS: Did you get to hit Petco Park? |
I can tell Vern isn't paying attention. CC Sabathia in his last 5 starts has an ERA of 1.49 in 36 innings with 43 K's. He had two horrible 9 ER starts at the beginning of the season that bloated that ERA. That was the question and yes he has turned it around. He's gonna look pretty good in a Yankees uniform next year with Mark Teixeira over at fist base. |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Member of X
I can tell Vern isn't paying attention. CC Sabathia in his last 5 starts has an ERA of 1.49 in 36 innings with 43 K's. He had two horrible 9 ER starts at the beginning of the season that bloated that ERA. That was the question and yes he has turned it around. He's gonna look pretty good in a Yankees uniform next year with Mark Teixeira over at fist base. |
I just glossed over the question :p |
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| Trance Nutter |
Yeah got to Petco. There was a mix-up with my boss over dates so I got to 2 games, both were San Diego vs Colorado.
Sat up in 215ish one night and down in 113ish the next, both great seats.
San Diego won one game fairly easily and got spanked in the second. Was a little annoyed that Peavey didn't play either game, sucks for the fans when they don't get to see the best player play cos of rest rotations. |
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| Eddie N MIAMI |
Jason Isringhausen is really emoooooo
having blown 6 saves since May 5th ,he's been having some mental issues, and got all depressed and volunteered to give up the Cards closers duty.
now he has to go to the DL cause he cut himself punching a TV out of frustration.
Ive noticed that a lot of pitchers after bad outings punch stuff in the dugout/lockeroom and some hurt themselves, I think its time they start putting punching bags there |
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