|
is it the size of the diamond.. (pg. 12)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Fine, you want to take quotes out of context and respond with one-liners, I'll respond in kind:
Bull. Money does not prove love. |
lol i succeeded.
But, as I said, spending $100 or $1m is neither better or worse. Neither has any more benefit. |
|
|
| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by me@t k@tie
And why does everything you do have to make financial sense anyway? As a ty example, going to clubs doesn't exactly make financial sense, but that's hardly the point of going. |
Yet another one to take a single sentence out of context. I wasn't arguing that the decision has to make financial sense. My point was that if we're being fed some artificial "3 months' salary" financial benchmark then I should be able to question whether or not it makes financial sense.
If one believes that money is no object and just wants to get the most exquisite band they can find, all the power to 'em. But as soon as you start to quantify it it and talk about how much a man "should" spend, then how can one not ask what makes financial sense? |
|
|
| Vivid Boy |
in money grubbing bitches is the point of this thread. em. whatever happened to fallin in love with a nigga with a bus pass.
ill tell you one thing if im gonna be spending 10 g's on your ring......you better make a damn good meal cause i can get a butler for less then that |
|
|
| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
But, as I said, spending $100 or $1m is neither better or worse. Neither has any more benefit. |
And your example is ridiculous. Nobody spends either $100 or $1 million on a ring. I don't think such things even exist.
How about you drop the straw-man and deal with more realistic figures. Should I be spending $10K instead of $5K? Why or why not? |
|
|
| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Yet another one to take a single sentence out of context. I wasn't arguing that the decision has to make financial sense. My point was that if we're being fed some artificial "3 months' salary" financial benchmark then I should be able to question whether or not it makes financial sense.
If one believes that money is no object and just wants to get the most exquisite band they can find, all the power to 'em. But as soon as you start to quantify it it and talk about how much a man "should" spend, then how can one not ask what makes financial sense? |
If someone is dumb enough to fall for a sales pitch on a large financial decision that requires financing, yet doesn't look at the details, that is their own fault. So it doesn't matter if they say its "x months' salary," as they should be evaluating the financial decision relative to their own financial situation.
I do however, agree with what you are saying how there shouldn't be a "defined" amount a man should spend on a ring. |
|
|
| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Superstring
Every guy here will have to buy the ring eventually :) Just accept it!
Here's a question for the girls though: why do you _want_ the ring? (spare me the "tradition" talk, diamonds became a tradition in 1930's, after an extremely successful De Beers marketing/brainwashing campaign - look it up).
So once again, why do you _want_ the ring? Clearly it's not a _requirement_ to get married. And if you take "fake tradition" out of the equation, what's left? Really, articulate the answer - i'm looking forward to it (something better than "everyone has it", or, "it's shiny and pretty"). |
For me, the ring is symbolic of a relationship. Much like a relationship should be, the ring is never ending, beautiful, and often worth more than can be said. In order to attain it, it requires sacrifice, thought and love.
If my BF were going to propose to me, I wouldn't expect anything incredibly expensive (definitely not 10K... that's just ridiculous). What I would expect is something thoughtful. How he proposes to me means a lot more than the ring, or how much it is worth. |
|
|
| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
And your example is ridiculous. Nobody spends either $100 or $1 million on a ring. I don't think such things even exist.
How about you drop the straw-man and deal with more realistic figures. Should I be spending $10K instead of $5K? Why or why not? |
I don't believe in dictating what someone should spend on the engagement ring or wedding band. I personally believe that the wedding band is where the larger of the two sums should be spent, as that one will be worn for the life of the marriage. |
|
|
| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
If someone is dumb enough to fall for a sales pitch on a large financial decision that requires financing, yet doesn't look at the details, that is their own fault. So it doesn't matter if they say its "x months' salary," as they should be evaluating the financial decision relative to their own financial situation.
I do however, agree with what you are saying how there shouldn't be a "defined" amount a man should spend on a ring. |
So... am I missing something, or is that not more or less what I've been saying all along?
Oh well... glad we've reached an agreement. :p |
|
|
| Ania_xox |
OMG Ben :eek:
you and Aaron reached an agreement
someone give the boy a prize! |
|
|
| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
So... am I missing something, or is that not more or less what I've been saying all along?
Oh well... glad we've reached an agreement. :p |
Well to begin with, I said, that as a consumer, you should not let the salesmen make the decision for you just with his talk. Second, I did specifically agree that no number should be defined, as how much a man should spend on a ring. So, did I miss something, or were you trying to turn this around like I am an ass? |
|
|
| zookeeper |
After years of marriage, this is what your beautiful diamond ring will turn into...
...trust me, GIVE HER THE PRECIOUS!!! |
|
|
| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Haha, it's so like you to twist it like that. Oh, it's not for me, it's for YOU, you don't want everybody to think you're a cheapskate do you!?
It's like a Benz. It has no practical incremental value over the much cheaper alternatives, it's just ritzier and more expensive. When you go past a reasonable amount of thrift and propose with a band-aid painted gold, yes, you will look like a cheapskate, but there's a point of diminishing returns, after which spending more money only makes you look like a profligate trying to prove to everybody how rich you are. Meanwhile, people with actual financial sense recognize the guy who bought the 300 carat diamond as a sucker who's always in debt.
|
Oh absolutely there's diminishing returns, where you probably look like more of a ponce than you would have with a smaller ring.
But to equate a Benz with a 300 carat ring is absurd, a Benz is just a slightly higher end car. Let's talk about a car over 150K. |
|
|
|
|
