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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
How does his ability to speak English affect his ability to represent the country?
There is too much exaggeration on how bad it is. |
i agree. many world leaders speak French. |
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| StereoPrincess |
I also wanted to add that i didn't like the round table thing.
looked weird. i didn't think it was conducive to discussion. it was conducive to yelling at each other. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Any perceived communication difficulties are a serious weakness here.
It may be just that - a perception - but the effects are real. It's |
Word.
Besides maybe China, the world's most powerful countries and in particularly, the country we need to work with the most, all have leaders whose first language is english.
Perhaps I am associating his general demeanor - which I find weak and somewhat pathetic - with the language barrier. Or perhaps the language barrier just makes him more annoying. Either way, I don't think he comes off as a top politician.
Last night he just seemed like he was trying to be overly aggro and it was laughable. |
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Word.
Besides maybe China, the world's most powerful countries and in particularly, the country we need to work with the most, all have leaders whose first language is english.
Perhaps I am associating his general demeanor - which I find weak and somewhat pathetic - with the language barrier. Or perhaps the language barrier just makes him more annoying. Either way, I don't think he comes off as a top politician.
Last night he just seemed like he was trying to be overly aggro and it was laughable. |
I personally don't feel he comes off as a top politician either, but I really don't think the (lack of a) language barrier would make any difference. All he has is an accent. From when I've heard him speak, he very rarely makes any grammatical mistakes.
Remember, there are many Canadians whose first language is French, who the prime minister is supposed to represent. Furthermore, Canada is a bilingual country.
I'm beginning to believe that for some (not saying anyone in particular that's posted in this thread), their problem is more that French is his mother tongue, not that his ability to speak English inhibits his ability to communicate and therefore lead the country... |
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| exstasie |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
ouch. |
did duceppe crush your dreams too?
:D
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
I'm beginning to believe that for some (not saying anyone in particular that's posted in this thread), their problem is more that French is his mother tongue, not that his ability to speak English inhibits his ability to communicate and therefore lead the country... |
I didn't have a problem with Chretien, but I thought his accent wasn't as bad and he had enough of a presence otherwise to offset it.
Dion is a boob. When he argues I find the words just stumble awkwardly out of his mouth. It's not just an accent. He's not convincing at all, and if you want to vote for someone who can't convince anyone of anything, that's your call. I don't think he has the presence of a politician and he won't get my vote because of it. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
did duceppe crush your dreams too?
:D
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not really, I'm voting Duceppe. I was swaying between CPC and BQ, but CPC has no program, no tax cut for middle class and the same Liberals gimmicks of underevaluating surpluses, only to send them back to debt.... how innefecient when our infrastructure is crumbling. |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
presence |
key word
leaders have a presence. dion has none |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
All he has is an accent. |
No way. Chretien had an accent. Dion always sounds like he's groping in the dark for the right words. Scripted speeches obviously aren't as bad, but the flip side is that they seem to carry no passion or commitment whatsoever.
This has nothing to do with his mother tongue and everything to do with his ability to command an audience in English. I've known a number of Montrealers who were far more articulate in their speech than Dion is. |
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| Skipper |
| I'd say Graham's not your average Canadian english listener, considering he lived in France for a year ;) |
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| MarkT |
Dion + meek, garbled speech + solid platform (IMHO)
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Harper + perfect English + weak initiatives thus far (IMHO) + unreleased/unknown formal platform (fact)
I'll take Dion and the Libs, thanks (or NDP or Green, if you prefer)
seriously...when the platforms are *so* different, I can't believe that speaking/language is even a deciding factor, lol. wow. |
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