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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
Greens must be reasonably pleased, despite no seat. |
gotta wonder how many green supporters voted 'strategically'. I really thought the greens would get a seat
edit: just saw May ran against Peter MacKay in Nova Scotia. lol. at least she has balls to take on a federal minister |
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| activate |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
indeed.
Ignatieff and Rae have to both be seeing silver linings though. I would be surprised if Dion doesn't face significant pressure to step down.
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Dion is definitely gone, but i don't think it will be immediate. next spring of summer. I don't think they'll want to give the impression that they made the wrong choice in electing him as their leader. |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
gotta wonder how many green supporters voted 'strategically'. I really thought the greens would get a seat
edit: just saw May ran against Peter MacKay in Nova Scotia. lol. at least she has balls to take on a federal minister |
Green votes are merely ideological. Greens swept the high schools' trainerbra elections. They got a lot of great ideas, but so long someone else pays for them. Green dominated last election too. It's different when teens get out in the real world and their opinions change when they pay their own roof over their head. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
indeed.
Ignatieff and Rae have to both be seeing silver linings though. I would be surprised if Dion doesn't face significant pressure to step down.
Greens must be reasonably pleased, despite no seat. |
A change is needed and personally, I think Ignatieff is the right choice...although I wouldn't mind seeing Ken Dryden take a shot at it. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
Green votes are merely ideological. Greens swept the high schools' trainerbra elections. They got a lot of great ideas, but so long someone else pays for them. Green dominated last election too. It's different when teens get out in the real world and their opinions change when they pay their own roof over their head. |
one of the biggest problem for the green party is people under 30 don't normally vote.....and that is the core of their supporters. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
gotta wonder how many green supporters voted 'strategically'. I really thought the greens would get a seat
edit: just saw May ran against Peter MacKay in Nova Scotia. lol. at least she has balls to take on a federal minister |
They can't be too disappoitned with 900,000 votes and 7% of the popular vote. That's incredible for a 'new' party and considering how many Greens probably did vote for someone else at the last minute.
Some pointed out that May was smart to run in a near-hopeless race against MacKay, and do well, rather than potentially lose to a lesser name somewhere else.
| quote: | Originally posted by activate
Dion is definitely gone, but i don't think it will be immediate. next spring of summer. I don't think they'll want to give the impression that they made the wrong choice in electing him as their leader. |
It will have to be a delicate move, you're right...but I think it will be earlier, for two reasons.
Firstly, the leadership review is in May, I believe (whatever convention takes place at that time). Secondly, if the Liberals are smart, they will move on this sooner, rather than later. They spent so much time deflecting criticism for being a lame-duck official opposition, they had far too little to 'fix' the party.
I bet Dion is pushed out before he steps down.
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
A change is needed and personally, I think Ignatieff is the right choice...although I wouldn't mind seeing Ken Dryden take a shot at it. |
Dryden is a very bright guy too...but has been rather quiet. At least his days tending net for the Canadiens might hold some sway with Quebec voters, LOL! |
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| StereoPrincess |
it almost seems like some sort of weird grand plan that the public doesn't know anything about.
conspiracy! |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
Some pointed out that May was smart to run in a near-hopeless race against MacKay, and do well, rather than potentially lose to a lesser name somewhere else.
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There must be some ridings where the Greens have strong support. (Vancouver/Toronto?) Putting their star candidate for running in one of those ridings surely would improve their chances to win a seat. (though May did pretty well against Mackay I thought) |
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| Aleks_B |
| I'm pretty relieved at the results! The representation is not ideal at all but i had worse premonitions leading up the election, than what actually unfolded. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
There must be some ridings where the Greens have strong support. (Vancouver/Toronto?) Putting their star candidate for running in one of those ridings surely would improve their chances to win a seat. (though May did pretty well against Mackay I thought) |
yeah...I was thinking they'd come out of it with a seat or two, at least.
Still...it's a building phase. Her being a part of the leadership debates (and looking good) was a successful election for the party, period.
Duceppe and May should be congratulated...the other three leaders all failed to live up to expectations, IMHO.
Harper will be pleased with gaining seats, but the CPC made no such proportionate gain with the popular vote (about 2% gain). |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
indeed.
Ignatieff and Rae have to both be seeing silver linings though. I would be surprised if Dion doesn't face significant pressure to step down.
Greens must be reasonably pleased, despite no seat. |
Except that they are $2million in the hole.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...y/National/home
On a side note, I feel pretty ripped off that we just spent $300million to get rid of Dion. At least the libs and NDP won't be crying election every three weeks anymore. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
Dryden is a very bright guy too...but has been rather quiet. At least his days tending net for the Canadiens might hold some sway with Quebec voters, LOL! |
Honestly, I think he would have some sway in Quebec as he is a recognizable figure face in Quebec and Ontario...if not all of Canada. He is very well spoken and he now has some political experience under his belt. I wouldn't be surprised if he threw his name in the hat. |
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