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| tempoman |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
or how about being able to drive an electric car that you can recharge? That won't ever happen under a Conservative government.
I've heard rumours that Harper has called the election in part due to the effect that an Obama Presidency would have on Canadian voters. ie, it would definitely be a boost to the Liberal Party. I suppose there is some truth in that.
I am generally a centrist with both left leaning and a few right leaning tendencies. As much as I am unhappy with how the Liberals have gone about reforming their party since Chretien left office, I simply cannot vote for the Canadian Alliance Party...because that's exactly what they are. The old Progressive Conservative Party is dead, which is unfortunate, because now Canada's only truly right wing party has its base in the west, where they are less educated, more religious and definitely more "rural". As someone from Ontario, that's not the kind of party I will ever vote for.
So, bring on the minority Torie administration again, where little to nothing is accomplished among all kinds of bitter fighting in Parliament. This entire election is just a ing waste of tax payers money and is a huge distraction for Canadians concerning the very important American election campaign. |
All I see here is ignorance on your part here. Alberta continues to have the one of the strongest curriculums not only in Canada but internationally, with Alberta scoring well above the national average in test scores.
A recent McLeans Artice detailing the smartest cities in Canada:
Smartest Cities:
Ottawa
Victoria
Calgary
Toronto is somewhere down there below Regina
Most Cultured:
Calgary
Victoria
Gatineau
Perhaps you are confusing our different opinions on national matters as a lack of education?
Alberta’s 15-year olds place among world’s best on international tests
Edmonton… For the second time in a week, international test results have placed Alberta students among the world’s best. This time, the results of the 2006 Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) show that Alberta's students have jumped from fourth to second place in science, the focus subject for the 2006 tests.
In science, Alberta scored second highest in the world behind Finland. Alberta is the only province whose overall science score, as well as each individual test score, is significantly higher than the Canadian average. In the two minor areas of study, Alberta tied for third in reading and tied for fifth in mathematics.
"Alberta's students are achieving incredible things," said Minister of Education, Ron Liepert. "Student success is a collaboration of the efforts of teachers, parents, students and all educational stakeholders. This ensures that Alberta is recognized as an educational leader worldwide and our students are positioned for great things in a global context."
Comparison of performance in science between immigrant and non-immigrant students is another area of interest in PISA 2006. Alberta is the only jurisdiction whose immigrant students not only performed significantly better than, or as well as, the average non-immigrant students in Canada, but these students also demonstrated no difference with their non-immigrant counterparts within Alberta. This is contrary to international and national trends that non-immigrant youth tend to outperform their immigrant peers.
"Our results show that Alberta can be held as a model for helping immigrant students achieve excellence in their education," said Liepert.
PISA is administered every three years by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development. The tests assess the international achievement of 15-year-old students in reading, mathematics and science. In Alberta, approximately 2,000 students from 90 schools, together with other sampled students from 57 countries, participated in the test in the spring of 2006. 2006 marks the third time Alberta participated in this programme.
Supporting student learning is part of Premier Ed Stelmach’s plan to secure Alberta’s future by building communities, greening our growth and creating opportunity.
http://education.alberta.ca/department/news/2007/december/20071204.aspx |
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| smuncky |
“I have heard that they (the Conservatives) are changing from attack ads to porn movies (on gas pumps) so you can watch someone else being screwed at the same time that you do. They are, after all, in bed with the oil companies.”
-Councillor Howard Moscoe |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
Just wondering where this figure comes from? |
The AFP reported $290 million right after the election call. IIRC, Elections Canada made that estimate.
It's very much in line with previous costs of ~$200 and ~$278 million for the 2000 and 2004 elections, respectively:
http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/voter...ctioncosts.html
Another source (that I now can't locate offhand) pegged the 2006 election at ~$270 million.
Cancelling the 4 byelections costs a few bucks too:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008...ction-bill.html |
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| Sentinal |
The gay and abortion issues are dead. Get over it. Harper put it to a free vote, and he repsects the vote as any democratic politician would.
And as for all this bull calling him a liar because he is "breaking his own legislation". Minority gov't's are meant to function as an interm government and as such are not to last for more than 2-3 years. This is not just for federal politics but provincial as well. Harper could not let the gov't sit for a year and get dick all acomplished. It would cost the country more then 300 million to sit and do nothing progressive for a year.
In all honesty I feel like I'm wasting my time writing this however. This is a thread in the Toronto page. Toronto loves their Liberals no matter how much they prove to be corrupt and ineffiecent with taxpayer money.
The best thing to happen to this country would be a majority Consevative country. I will be voting conservative and I am very proud to support them. |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by tempoman
Most Cultured:
Calgary
Victoria
Gatineau
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I find that odd... I lived in Gatineau for a number of years, and the most culture I got out of that city is La Pigale. |
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| Sentinal |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
I find that odd... I lived in Gatineau for a number of years, and the most culture I got out of that city is La Pigale. |
right across from the burger king.......i love la pigale |
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| Moral Hazard |
| I'm more then a little pissed that we need to spend another $300 million so that we can end up with a house of commons that is not significantly different then the one we have now. I suppose; however, if I were Harper - currently running a deficit, entering poor economic times, with popularity trending downward - I'd want to cut my losses now too. |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I'm more then a little pissed that we need to spend another $300 million so that we can end up with a house of commons that is not significantly different then the one we have now. I suppose; however, if I were Harper - currently running a deficit, entering poor economic times, with popularity trending downward - I'd want to cut my losses now too. |
And a new study which was to give us a total for the war in Afghanistan was just put on hold till after the election. |
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| Nick Cenik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
And a new study which was to give us a total for the war in Afghanistan was just put on hold till after the election. |
How convenient for Mr. Harper! |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nick Cenik
How convenient for Mr. Harper! |
and lets not forget the "in & out" scandal investigation... also on hold pending the election. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I'm more then a little pissed that we need to spend another $300 million so that we can end up with a house of commons that is not significantly different then the one we have now. I suppose; however, if I were Harper - currently running a deficit, entering poor economic times, with popularity trending downward - I'd want to cut my losses now too. |
running a defecit?? not true at all.
And I believe Harper will come out with a stronger minority, close to a majority. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
running a defecit?? not true at all.
And I believe Harper will come out with a stronger minority, close to a majority. |
We were in the red in August. I imagine that is likely because quarterly income tax installments had not yet been collected; however, even if that is the case it's in' scary... especially since neither I nor my country are better off today then two years ago. It would seem that increasing program spending by 14% and decreasing your revenue is not the most fiscally sound policy.
Is adding or taking away a few seats from the Conservatives really worth $300 million? |
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