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Federal Election 2008 Thread (pg. 25)
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| Skipper |
lol, k guys, you got me.
I really just hate the quebecois accent.
but so does the rest of the world!
*runs* |
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| malek |
Dion doesn't even have a québécois accent hehehe, he has more of an international french accent.
You can't even differentiate accents, how do you even know what you really hate:p |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Then why not ask a few times before you start to answer the question? Why on earth did he begin to answer the question several times without knowing what he was being asked? if the interviewer gave him an insufficient response, then stop and demand proper clarification before you begin responding.
Honestly if you were interviewing for a job, would you start answering a question, then stop and ask for clarficiation, then start answering again and then stop again because you didn't make sure you understood it when you asked for clarification? Show a little bit of assertiveness and make sure you get the right info before you proceed. |
Dion could have handled it better. Instead of presuming context when he received none, he could have demanded clarity.
that this is being used by some as evidence of Dion not being fit to lead the coutnry is ing ridiculous.
it's a non-story of something that should not have aired...but was aired by an irresponsible media outlet (shame on CTV) under the guise of having a "responsibility to the public".
it's bad enough that the media hypes issues to 'sell news' (youth violence, car accidents, etc)...but CREATING your own news is stooping to new low, IMHO.
btw...take this as evidence that mainstream media outlets are cetainly not all "Liberal-friendly", as has been claimed by so many people ;) |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
car accidents, etc |
haha, this was a car accident all right |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT He asked for clarification three times because the impatient idiot of an interviewer *repeatedly* didn't answer Dion's request for a further context.
'If you were PM, what would you do differently, that Mr. Harper has not done'
Do differently if he had been elected today, had been elected in the last election...?
The interviewer needed to qualify his question by providing for WHEN Dion would have become PM. |
This is SUCH a cop-out. It's not a hard question to follow (despite the excuses of the many Liberal supporters). It's a very SIMPLE question actually, that ANY semi-intelligent person can understand. Dion understood the question just fine, he's not an idiot, he's spent MANY years in politics answering much more difficult questions than this one. The problem was not that he misunderstood, it's that he didn't have an answer, so he fell back on his "English is my second language" and "I have a hearing problem"(but only when sounds are layered, and during the interview, there were no outside noises) excuses to dodge the question.
If WHEN he is PM makes such a huge difference, then he could have answered as such:
"Well, if I had been elected in the last election, I would have done X and Y and Z. But, if I had only been elected last week then I would have done Q when I noticed that V. But I am NOT Prime Minister, so what I PLAN to do, if elected on the 14th is my 30/50 plan (as in, spend 30 days thinking about what I want to do for the next 50 days) for my first 80 days in power."
The problem is NOT that he misunderstood the question, he understood it just fine. The problem is that he did not, and DOES NOT have a single idea to fill in X, Y, Z, Q, or V. Because, other than his Green Shift, he has NO economic plan. |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Fair enough... I've just seen an inordinate amount of attention being paid by you to Dion's communication skills |
As a figure head, as THE representative of our country, and as somebody wanting to actually get done, communication skills should certainly scrutinized. We are not saying he cannot lead because he speaks french, the language is not important. What is important, is that he cannot be understood, and he does not understand. Again, the actual language is irrelevant.
Fine, maybe if the question was in French he would have been able to better understand, but it wasn't, that's it. At this level, we have to stop saying 'what if', and actually look at performances. There just is not a margin for error, not with so few days to go, and this being 'the top job in the country'.
So apparently the question was poorly constructed. As Melek pointed out, not all world leaders speak English at international events. So they have to speak through interpreters, and rely that these people will be able to understand, and translate what the leaders are saying. Since, most of us here have taken a second language, how often does translation come through 100%? Pretty much never. Some understanding, reading between the lines, and the ability to deconstruct a broken sentence would be needed when handling cross language negotiations. Does Dion inspire any hope that he could in fact pick up on these things?
Dion just has not done a good job at convincing me, and some others it seems, that he can actually lead. Coupled with his party's policies, that gets a big no no, for me.
For the record, I thought the question was decently clear. Sure he screwed up the tense, but I could still understand what he was trying to ask. |
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| Cro_Addict |
Wait..... There is an election this year?
:conf: :nervous: |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
My question is, 5-10 years down the road, if pollution is significantly reduced, thus taxation coming from that source, reduced. How will the government make up for those losses? Hike taxes back to their original levels? |
So, I just talked to Bonnie Crombie (Liberal - Mississauga-Streetsville), about this issue. Apparently she was just in a Liberal conference call, where she brought about this very point. The official answer I got from her: there is no plan as of yet, and they would worry about it, when they got there. It is so far down the road, they really do not need to think about it now, and will draft legislation when they deem the levels have dropped enough.
That is basically the answer I thought I was going to get. Not good enough for me. |
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| Nick Cenik |
| I just spent about 30 minutes watching Stephane Dion speak on CBC during an interview. I think that if one actually takes the time to listen to the man one realizes that not only is he smart and quite sincere in his intentions but he certainly can speak English well. Granted, he does have difficulty at times but I do not think his ability to lead our country would be jeopardized at all by his occasional (re: quite rare) comprehension issues. |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nick Cenik
I just spent about 30 minutes watching Stephane Dion speak on CBC during an interview. I think that if one actually takes the time to listen to the man one realizes that not only is he smart and quite sincere in his intentions but he certainly can speak English well. Granted, he does have difficulty at times but I do not think his ability to lead our country would be jeopardized at all by his occasional (re: quite rare) comprehension issues. |
This is the same opinion I tend to have, he's more difficult to understand than most, but you can still make it out if you try. Most people (voters) won't bother trying, they'll just tune him out. My problem is not that I don't believe he understands or lacks intelligence, I believe he's quite capable. And that's the reason I'm disappointed in this last interview attempt. He UNDERSTOOD the question, of that I have no doubt. But he had no answer and was trying to buy for time to think of one, but could not. I trust that he wants to save the environment and went to great lengths to create the 'Green Shift' in such a way that economists would give it a pass. But I have no faith in the claim that it will be 'revenue neutral', and I have no faith that Dion knows anything about governing a country after he implements his Green Shift. |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
So, I just talked to Bonnie Crombie (Liberal - Mississauga-Streetsville), about this issue. Apparently she was just in a Liberal conference call, where she brought about this very point. The official answer I got from her: there is no plan as of yet, and they would worry about it, when they got there. It is so far down the road, they really do not need to think about it now, and will draft legislation when they deem the levels have dropped enough.
That is basically the answer I thought I was going to get. Not good enough for me. |
thank you very much for bringing this up!
Thats what I thought, its not a real plan, its just a knee-jerk-of-a-plan to get some green votes. |
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| malek |
I don't know why you guys still debate Dion's abilities... this guy will resign next week after his defeat, so really it's a non-issue.
Most probably Harper will resign too after a few months for not being able to get a majority.
It'll be another minority CPC govt with a Liberal opposition, and if the sky falls on them, a Bloc official opposition. |
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