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Federal Election 2008 Thread (pg. 3)
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| Nick Cenik |
| I'm voting Liberal. |
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| Orko |
I definitely do not want a Conservative majority, but the choices just are not good. The liberals lost me as soon as Dion was crowned chief goof-ball, and got behind a national carbon tax plan. The NDP, well I never considered them, and the Greens would love to trumpet global warming.
So at this point, even though the Conservatives don't have a solid environment plan, that might be what decides it for me. They are the ones sitting on their hands, and avoiding following the EU's lead in taxing.
Another CPC minority? Least bad choice? |
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| Magnetonium |
Someone should start a poll. |
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| exstasie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Someone should start a poll. |
too close.
Wait until the day of, or the day before...
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| musicsnob_NOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
CPC Hypocrisy at it's finest.
a few gems from Stephen Harper in May 2006:
"Fixed election dates prevent governments from calling snap elections for short-term political advantage...They level the playing field for all parties and the rules are clear for everybody."
"...fixed election dates stop leaders from trying to manipulate the calendar simply for partisan political advantage".
"The only way we can have justice is to have a fixed election date, because an election without a fixed election date is a tremendous advantage for the party in power".
He qualified his desire for fixed election dates by saying that the gov't has to still be able to govern and there are scenarios where calling an election is necessary:
"If the government is defeated, loses confidence, it's obliged by the constitution to hold an election."
while this is the angle he's now playing, it's complete bull. The CPC has not been defeated or officially lost the confidence of either the people or parliament. The CPC is even or ahead in the polls, has been able to pass whatever legislation it wanted, and has put through a rather high number of bills during it's time in office. Clearly the CPC has been able to effectively govern according to its agenda.
this election is being called to derail several byelections, to avoid dealing with economic issues that might expose some flaws in the CPC fiscal policy, and to take advantage of the fact that the opposition is not in a strong position to defeat them.
Stephen Harper = a hypocrite and a LIAR.
funny how the same term that was repeatedly thrown at the Liberals is now an apt description for Harper and the CPC themselves.
so, in the midst of an economic downturn, lets spend ~$300 million on an unnecessary election. what a douchebag. |
Oh get over it. The policy is for majority governments. You can't seriously expect to have minority governments in place for a fixed term and if all parties need to have the abiltiy to force an election. You're just worried that Harper may pull off a majority since the alternatives are awful. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT
Oh get over it. The policy is for majority governments. You can't seriously expect to have minority governments in place for a fixed term and if all parties need to have the abiltiy to force an election. You're just worried that Harper may pull off a majority since the alternatives are awful. |
I love a PM who can run the country into debt......Harper is doing a great job at that...that 2% GST cut has just made the world of difference in my life....once he bans gay marriage and abortion then Canada will be perfect. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by musicsnob_NOT
Oh get over it. The policy is for majority governments. You can't seriously expect to have minority governments in place for a fixed term and if all parties need to have the abiltiy to force an election. You're just worried that Harper may pull off a majority since the alternatives are awful. |
where in the legislation does it state that it only applies to a majority? you can't be suggesting that he's incapable of manipulating parliament with his minority gov't...he's been doing it ALL ALONG by making virtually everything a confidence motion.
no one, Harper included, suggest that a CPC majority is remotely possible...so I'm far from worried about that (but what a ing nightmare that would be).
my concern lies with him cicumventing his own legislation and wasting $300 million on an unnecessary election when gov't coffers are bare.
what a conincidence that he pulled this right before 4 by-elections, before the possibility of a liberal President in the U.S., before the CPC fiscal policies come under closer scrutiny during an economic downturn, etc.
he *claims* he's calling it because parliament is "dysfucntional" and because confidence in his gov't is lost (hence the bogus meetings with the opposition beforehand to "confirm" that)...because that's the only way around the legislation. but how is this the case? Has the CPC not passed everything it wished? What is going to change with another CPC minority?
it's a sham...and you know it ;)
I'd love to see a televised request for the GG to disolve parliament...only she refuses and asks the opposition to form a coalition, lol. not because I believe it would ever actually happen, but just to see the look on Harper's face. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
The Conservaties dont give a about climate change or the environment.They have the same attitude as their fellow Republicans in the south "DRILL DRILL DRILL". |
Energy sustainability are big issues for North Americans (moreso for the US). Why is exploration and production of our own resources so much worse than paying middle eastern countries to pollute over there and then transport thousands of miles?
The same people who are against domestic E&P are the same ones who cry when a pipeline gets built in their state or gas prices go up. Domestic exploration and production of oil and gas increases worldwide energy storage levels and puts downward pressure on prices. It reduces our dependence on foreign energy and boosts our economy by keeping jobs here at home, keeping cash inside the country and providing more royalty and tax revenue to government, which eventually finds its way back into the hands of Canadians. |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
my concern lies with him cicumventing his own legislation and wasting $300 million on an unnecessary election when gov't coffers are bare.
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Just wondering where this figure comes from? |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Energy sustainability are big issues for North Americans (moreso for the US). Why is exploration and production of our own resources so much worse than paying middle eastern countries to pollute over there and then transport thousands of miles?
The same people who are against domestic E&P are the same ones who cry when a pipeline gets built in their state or gas prices go up. Domestic exploration and production of oil and gas increases worldwide energy storage levels and puts downward pressure on prices. It reduces our dependence on foreign energy and boosts our economy by keeping jobs here at home, keeping cash inside the country and providing more royalty and tax revenue to government, which eventually finds its way back into the hands of Canadians. |
this is too complicated for tree huggers to understand...
they preach by local, but that doesn't apply to local Oil:rolleyes: |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
Just wondering where this figure comes from? |
its the average cost of a federal election. |
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