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The Pacific (pg. 15)
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| MGT |
Political campaign tactics in the US are just as shady, plus CIA/NSA covert operations that you don't hear or can't hear due to national security. No one is absolved of all guilt. If China is accused of being so closed off and secretive, then how did this astroturfing get leaked out. It just seems like another media propaganda to me: biased, one sided and narrow minded.
It would be ignorant to assume every person who talks about China in a positive light is an astroturfer, and I'm not even putting China in a positive light, just pointing out that many issues are not as simple as black and white. |
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| EddieZilker |
You're trying to make the Tienanmen Square Massacre look "justified" by saying that there were "trouble-makers" who knowingly instigated a one-sided fight, against their favor. You then take a dismissive attitude about how it was a "miss-communication" to civilians trying to leave the area which resulted in their slaughter. It's called Occam's Razor.
Your explanation is simply not the most plausible. |
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| MGT |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
You're trying to make the Tienanmen Square Massacre look "justified" by saying that there were "trouble-makers" who knowingly instigated a one-sided fight, against their favor. You then take a dismissive attitude about how it was a "miss-communication" to civilians trying to leave the area which resulted in their slaughter. It's called Occam's Razor.
Your explanation is simply not the most plausible. |
I'm not trying anything. You on the other hand is. Can you see that?
I only told you the accounts of what happened through the eyes of some people who were there. |
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| idoru |
| There's a joke about eyelids in there somewhere. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by MGT
I only told you the accounts of what happened through the eyes of some people who were there. |
They are not very realistic and even if one were to take them at face value, they still don't portray the Chinese government in a very good light. |
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| MGT |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
They are not very realistic and even if one were to take them at face value, they still don't portray the Chinese government in a very good light. |
I didn't tell you the story to convince you or explain the cause or win an argument. I told you what I heard when I was there in China. |
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| idoru |
| Why don't you guys just already? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by MGT
I didn't tell you the story to convince you or explain the cause or win an argument. I told you what I heard when I was there in China. |
You told the story because you were providing a counter-point for some facts which you seem to feel are in dispute. I am pointing out how irrelevant and inaccurate your counter-point is. You're clearly not here to win any argument unless you would define concession as victory. |
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| R.j. |
Anyway, last night's episode gained that same momentum of viewer engagement, falling, however, a bit shorter than Part Five in that department.
At any rate, it was, generally speaking, a better-than-average episode. Seems to me that the character Eugene Sledge, now on the front-line, indeed has given the series that extra kick that the preceding episodes needed to be more than just "realistic" portrayals of the Pacific theater as far as superficial authenticity.
The development was there, yes, but the characters, for some reason, did not connect with me or, as I've read in this thread, other viewers—and I didn't really care for them that much, if not entirely. Now that Leckie and Runner are out of the picture, it feels as though that there is, one some level that I can't quite put my finger on, much more room suddenly open for much-needed depth that, if executed precisely, will save the series from a complete spiraling downward. |
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| EddieZilker |
| I agree. It wasn't bad. The first four seemed to be missing something and I found myself wishing they'd taken more than 50+ minutes to develop them and fill in some gaps that I still feel are missing. After last night, though, I found myself wondering what was going to happen with those guys and thinking about the relational dynamics between Sledge and the guy who took that Japanese soldier's gold fillings. |
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