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Eating Meat (pg. 16)
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| chlola |
Why are you judging Lews?
Are we not all entitled to our opinions? |
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| WittyHandle |
| I like Lews a lot too, he's one of my favorite posters. He's not ranting, and he's not on a moral high ground. He's very passionate about his views and I respect that. |
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| ziptnf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
The only reasons for eating meat are selfishness and laziness (for those of us in a first world country who can afford the internet). |
Come on, Lews, not everybody eats meat because they're selfish and lazy. A lot of people eat meat because it's convenient, and yes, they are lazy, and have no idea where the meat came from or how it was processed. But on the other side of the spectrum there are a lot of people who eat meat because they understand it and enjoy cooking it properly. Those people generally are able to eat meat more sparingly than your average obese American.
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The only difference is you remove the blood you can taste and tell yourself you're better for it. |
Only people who think they are morally better by not eating meat think this. What about the people who are doing it because it's healthier for their bodies? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
I like Lews a lot too, he's one of my favorite posters. He's not ranting, and he's not on a moral high ground. He's very passionate about his views and I respect that. |
Lews accuses people of not caring about animals if they eat meat. I think that qualifies as taking the moral high ground. |
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| chlola |
Lews is way cool.
I resent your personal judgemental rant.
:nervous: :rolleyes: :nervous: |
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| WittyHandle |
| Then I'll rephrase, because taking the moral high ground is generally the better option. I don't think he is holier-than-thou is probably more in line with my thoughts. Now if we're done here, I'm almost through the BSG mini-series. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
Now if we're done here, I'm almost through the BSG mini-series. |
I wouldn’t want to keep you from FAR more important things :)
How awesome is the camera work eh? :D |
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| chlola |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
I wouldn’t want to keep you from FAR more important things :)
How awesome is the camera work eh? :D |
:nervous: Like eating your meat?:nervous: |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
I don't think I'm on any kind of moral high ground at all. Of course I still use animal products and I could be a lot better. Believe me, I'm not trying to say I'm perfect or great or even good. But people have all sorts of excuses that are simply stupid when it comes to this.
Of course animals are exploited every day to maintain the society. But does that mean I shouldn't try to limit it? |
Because you only limit it as far as is convenient to you. Not just in your actions, but in your very definition of what counts as acceptable loss. Whenever you wash your hands with soap you're massacring life forms, life forms I seriously doubt you give a about. You draw arbitrary lines in the sand, based on intelligence or pain or something else.
These arbitrary distinctions and righteousness to the point of convenience are exactly what you're calling "selfish and lazy" in other people. So you are ing selfish and you are ing lazy too, you just draw different limits based on your subjective little views. Which makes you a hypocrite when you start getting righteous.
| quote: | | That's a ing terrible argument, Jack. "Society uses tons of X, so trying to limit X is pointless." Come on, now. Of course we need to try to limit bad things. If we don't we're just stupid and immature. |
It's a terrible argument when you make a laughable strawman like that out of it. And seriously man, get some ing perspective. Not everyone thinks that farming animals is a "bad thing" and so not everyone eats meat out of mere "laziness or selfishness".
| quote: | Originally posted by ziptnf
Only people who think they are morally better by not eating meat think this. What about the people who are doing it because it's healthier for their bodies? |
They're not the slightest bit relevant to my point, because I was addressing Lews who is quite self-evidently also in it for the moral kicks even if he does have medical reasons. |
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| chlola |
| I have a sudden craving for beef jerky. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| I should also point out that comparing vegetarianism to environmentalism is a terrible analogy, for several obvious reasons. |
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| chlola |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I should also point out that comparing vegetarianism to environmentalism is a terrible analogy, for several obvious reasons. |
+1 |
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