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Eating Meat (pg. 19)
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzQi
Therefore it is molarry wrong |
Terrible :stongue: |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzQi
Therefore it is molarry wrong |
haha! *groan* |
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| djhaziel |
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzQi
Therefore it is molarry wrong |
:stongue: |
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| Lilith |
| If animals didn't want me to eat them, they would have evolved to taste bad. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by djhaziel
Not true humans lack many enzymes and acids that carnivores animals do , in order to have a proper degradation of animal protein such as meat . |
We totally digest cellulose right proper though, yo. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by djhaziel
Not true humans lack many enzymes and acids that carnivores animals do , in order to have a proper degradation of animal protein such as meat .
Also Our teeth resemble more, the teeth of an animal that eats veggies. Incisors are not only just cut , but just the same as the canines their major job is to guide our occlusion through a proprioceptive system + they are not nearly as sharp as the teeth of a carnivore animal.
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Don't play stupid with us here. Obviously we are in the intermediary stage between herbivore and carnivore. a study was done by national geographic recently that showed the reason why our wisdom teeth become tight in the jaw is due to jaw attrophy, which in turn is indicatory of carnivora traits. Carnivores have smaller jaws relative to herbivores due to the unecessary need for large muscle attachments there for chewing. Unecessary traits usually dwindle over time, as is the process of evolution.
This is one of dozens of cases for humans geared towards being carnivores. Agreed that we were once purely herbivores, but the past million or so years, we have been hunting and gathering meat, and essentially, the high density nutrients in meats gave us the energy required and free time required to evolve our minds.
So you better not write one more thing or screw with my computer again, you'll be arrested, end of conversation, from her father! |
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| dj_alfi |
| quote: | Originally posted by AMMORA
oh man i'd miss ice cream like no other....but i do enjoy the So Delicious soy and coconut milk alternatives now...and when i make vegetarian cheese steaks i use vegan soy cheese b/c i dont like mixing dairy with my soy-meat...it tastes funny. i'm weird...
and based on the brooklyn pizza i ate yesterday/today i could nevvvver give up that delicious fresh mozz cheese zomg om nom nom nom
oooh and my fav veggie burgers Morningstar Farms Grillers use egg as a binder and I'm convinced its that small ingredient addition that makes them taste much better than other vag. burgers on the market. |
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| djhaziel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
Don't play stupid with us here. Obviously we are in the intermediary stage between herbivore and carnivore. a study was done by national geographic recently that showed the reason why our wisdom teeth become tight in the jaw is due to jaw attrophy, which in turn is indicatory of carnivora traits. Carnivores have smaller jaws relative to herbivores due to the unecessary need for large muscle attachments there for chewing. Unecessary traits usually dwindle over time, as is the process of evolution.
This is one of dozens of cases for humans geared towards being carnivores. Agreed that we were once purely herbivores, but the past million or so years, we have been hunting and gathering meat, and essentially, the high density nutrients in meats gave us the energy required and free time required to evolve our minds.
So you better not write one more thing or screw with my computer again, you'll be arrested, end of conversation, from her father! |
errr. our diet has become softer therefore humans don't need as many teeth as before. Many thousands of years ago we even had a 4th molar and due to our change in terms of "consistency" in our diet, the 4th molar disappeared , same thing is happening with the 3rd molar ( wisdom tooth) which is now considered a rudimentary organ .
Again our mind evolved because of the intake of essential fatty acids ( omega 3 and omega 6 ) that are all found in nuts , seeds , flowers etc .
btw that national geographic bull did you just made it up ? you should post the source or else consequences will never be same . |
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| Lews |
| GOTTA GET MY FLAXSEED ON SON :gsmile: |
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| WittyHandle |
| The tooth argument is a prime example of information that can be interpreted by either side to justify their decision. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by djhaziel
Not true humans lack many enzymes and acids that carnivores animals do , in order to have a proper degradation of animal protein such as meat .
Also Our teeth resemble more, the teeth of an animal that eats veggies. Incisors are not only just cut , but just the same as the canines their major job is to guide our occlusion through a proprioceptive system + they are not nearly as sharp as the teeth of a carnivore animal. |
That's because we are omnivorous, like many apes and like many mammals. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
here is my evidence.
Its further emphasized on page 2 of the article
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...human_diet.html
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Lucas argues that the mechanical process of chewing, combined with the physical properties of foods in the diet, will drive tooth, jaw, and body size, particularly in human evolution.
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This is in reference to herbevores obviously, since carnivores do not chew. Thus the athrophy of jaw size correlates to the need to chew less, the need to eat less plants and more meat. (you have to chew plants, you don't chew raw meat).
furthermore...
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Essentially, by cooking our food, thereby making it softer, we no longer need teeth big enough to chow down on really tough particles. By using knives and forks to cut food into smaller pieces, we no longer need a large enough jaw to cram in big hunks of food.
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As far as i know, early humans mainly cooked meat on the fire. If you find anything else, please share your references.
More calories less volume = more time to do . We aren't brontosaurs' spending 99% of our waking hours grazing just to meet daily dietary requirements.
Think about calorie consumption and the time it would take to meet your daily requirements based on plants available to you in a forest.
Now you can take a small percentage of that volume and get the exact same dietary benefits eating meats.. Hence a period that allowed for free time and mind development.
omega 6 can be found in poultry and 3 in fish.
lets not forget the social development hominids gained through organized hunting.
The end result is as follows.
Humans evolved from earlier primates, hominids
These hominids hunted ate meat and cooked it.
We are a product of those hominids.
Thus we evolved to eat meat.
If we didn't eat meat then ..
GUESS WHAT?!
CONSEQUENCES WOULD NEVER BE... THE SAME! |
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