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Adopted TA's - anyone? (pg. 3)
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
In that case I don't like the idea. I see adoption as a solution if a couple wants kids but can't have any. As a way to help the poor, nah. |
I'm not "helping the poor". There are kids in bad conditions. I can offer a better place. It then follows... why not?
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
First, it's not your job to make the world a better place. |
I never said it was my job :conf?
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
Second, biological and adopted kids together sounds like the premise to a really lame book / movie, with lots of drama. |
Why, do you know of a family with both adopted and biological kids in which drama ensued?
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
Third, there surely are less "personal" and interfering ways to help those who need help. |
Yes, I could help institutions give them bread and milk for just pennies a day :conf:
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Call me conservative, but I really think the traditional family structure is best. |
The kid's going to have one father and one mother, mate, we're not going to be a family with a daddy and a mommy and a mommy and... wait, that'd actually be kind of great.
But, I digress. The thing is, it's a traditional family structure all the same. |
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| Renzo |
| This is why Germans can't ever be in power. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renzo
This is why Germans can't ever be in power. |
:stongue:
Come on, we've seen cranky Germans complain about idealists before. The worst they can do is write lengthy books complaining about lengthy books and raise poodles.
Right, Arthur Meatenhauer? :p |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Happymess
If I were to adopt a child, I think I would choose one that had been there the longest. Everybody seems to choose babies, so that they can teach them their own ways, but think how frustrating it is if you've been in a foster home watching babies go past while you're still there.. |
I see where you're coming from, feeling sad for those kids who have lived in orphanages for many years... it's terrible. But those will be by far the most difficult to adjust. Gotta get 'em young when they still don't know wtf is going on. Horror stories abound of foster parents taking in older children. I'm not saying it's fair, but if you want to limit the risk of having a poorly adjusted child and want a happy normal child (baby?) to adopt, try to get one younger than 2 or 3 years old. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| jonsun youre black, why dont you share with us how it was growing up for you adopted |
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| Happymess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Why, do you know of a family with both adopted and biological kids in which drama ensued? |
I do. But the fact that they were adopted never affected their sibling relationship, they hated each other as much as any blood sibling. :gsmile: |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Happymess
I do. But the fact that they were adopted never affected their sibling relationship, they hated each other as much as any blood sibling. :gsmile: |
this is the true story of selma |
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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
jonsun youre black, why dont you share with us how it was growing up for you adopted |
No matter how much my white parents tried to teach me differently, i still have the urge to smoke crack & rape white chicks. It's always been very hard. |
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| Meat187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I'm not "helping the poor". There are kids in bad conditions. I can offer a better place. |
Which exactly is "helping the poor".
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I never said it was my job :conf? |
Then why do you feel the need to give to others? If a bum asks you for money, do you give to him? I see no obligation to give to others, unless it's your job. And if one gives out of generosity, I see no reason to entangle that with your life. Unless it's your job. Guess this is the fundamental point where we disagree.
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Why, do you know of a family with both adopted and biological kids in which drama ensued? |
I know how children are. Not saying it's bound to fail, but I wouldn't do it. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
Which exactly is "helping the poor". |
How so?
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
Then why do you feel the need to give to others? |
What am I giving to others? The kid is not mine, and if I die, no one's going to bury the kid with me or anything.
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
If a bum asks you for money, do you give to him? |
If I've got a spare change, why not? I usually give them drinks/food though.
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
I see no obligation to give to others, unless it's your job. |
As you said, this is our disagreement: I'm not obliged to post here, yet I do. I don't have to read most books I read, yet I do. I don't act based solely on what I must (or must not) do. I also like to do what I can.
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And if one gives out of generosity, I see no reason to entangle that with your life. |
If you mean that as a duty, you're right - there's no reason compelling me to do that, other than my very own volition and the possibility to act accordingly.
Edit: Sorry if I sound dumb, but I really want you to define what you mean so I can be sure we're not talking past each other. |
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| ziptnf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
Then why do you feel the need to give to others? If a bum asks you for money, do you give to him? I see no obligation to give to others, unless it's your job. And if one gives out of generosity, I see no reason to entangle that with your life. Unless it's your job. Guess this is the fundamental point where we disagree.
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Are you Ayn Rand by chance? |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| I want to adopt a child who is old enough to do all the around the house I don't want to do. |
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