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"Free will is the consequence of a Divine creation" (pg. 4)
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| Silky Johnson |
| Jesus shut the up. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
The passage begins with "Free will defines the human being..." so I'm pretty sure "the" is only in reference to human beings.
You also haven't answered my question, whether you've ever seen anything non-human act based on lengthy premeditation/pondering? |
Really?... are you actually that dense? This isn't difficult to understand... if condition a is the consequence of process b then a is the consequence for all things that have undergone process b not just for one thing. If only one thing that underwent a given process suffers from a given condition then that condition is not the consequence of the process. Either everything in creation has free will or free will is not the consequence of creation... the conclusion one must reach, irrespective of which of these two things are true, is that the writer doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. One can extrapolate, from the fact that you don't recognize this, that you are a blithering idiot. I'm getting the impression that you aren't ready, willing, or able to recognize your own stupidity, which is a pity because it is glaringly obvious to the rest of us. Maybe it's my fault, somehow I've failed to make it apparent to you just how flawed your reasoning is... maybe it's your fault, maybe you're just that fucking stupid you can't figure it out... either way, we both seem to be very poor reflections of the divine indeed... which really just serves to enforce my point that the writer doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Irrespective, I'm not going to shovel the sand of reason against an insurmountable tide of stupidity... I'm done here. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
The passage begins with "Free will defines the human being..." so I'm pretty sure "the" is only in reference to human beings. |
That's the "fateful contradiction" he's highlighting, you ing cretin. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| Since no one is able/willing to answer the questions that I addressed, perhaps we should conclude the topic. Fine by me, as it only serves to strengthen my belief in a Creator. Good day, and all the best, guys! |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| You mean your brain has turned sharply away from the harsh searing realisation that your logic doesn't even begin to stack up. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| No, I'm just more interested in someone daring to tackle the questions I raised, rather than focusing on my "logic" or lack thereof against Moral Hazard's argument. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| NOBODY IS INTERESTED. SHUT THE UP. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Yes, I'm suddenly more interested in someone daring to tackle the questions I raised, rather than focusing on my "logic" or lack thereof against Moral Hazard's argument. |
Fixed that for you. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| You know I actually wrote an answer to the killer/rapist thing and then deleted it because fuck it, he wouldn't understand it anyway. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| I never fail to be fascinated by these moments in a debate when someone suddenly and radically abandons the entire line of reasoning they were pushing just moments earlier. It's like a game of chess where a player finally sees their imminent checkmate and instead of moving another futile piece or toppling their king they suddenly decide they never wanted to play chess at all and leave the room. I'd love to know what goes through the mind of the individual in that moment. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I never fail to be fascinated by these moments in a debate when someone suddenly and radically abandons the entire line of reasoning they were pushing just moments earlier. It's like a game of chess where a player finally sees their imminent checkmate and instead of moving another futile piece or toppling their king they suddenly decide they never wanted to play chess at all and leave the room. I'd love to know what goes through the mind of the individual in that moment. |
Then perhaps you've misunderstood me. I've already conceded Moral Hazard may be right, and I'm no longer (never really was) interested in arguing semantics. What I am interested in is the simple questions I've posed, but since nobody is willing/daring to address those, perhaps we should cease the discussion? Either way is fine by me, though. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Then perhaps you misunderstood me. I've already conceded Moral Hazard may be right, and I'm no longer (never really was) interested in arguing semantics. |
The fact you've already post-rationalised his point as mere semantics shows I've understood you perfectly. |
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