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"Free will is the consequence of a Divine creation" (pg. 5)
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
What I am interested in is the simple questions I've posed, but since nobody is willing/daring to address those, perhaps we should cease the discussion? Either way is fine by me, though. |
I am certainly no logician and absolutely do not have a strong understanding of philosophy, but even I can see that your questions cannot be addressed without also addressing their logic. You stupid fool. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'd love to know what goes through the mind of the individual in that moment. |
"If I stop playing now, I can't lose!" |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
What is this... stoned 15 year-old philosophy hour? One would have to be entirely incapable of critical thought to to take such a string of unsubstantiated and assumption laden statements to be of any value.
"Free will defines the human being..." according to whom exactly... it seems to be a woefully insufficient definition to me.
"The human is a reflection of the Divine..." on what exactly (other than human arrogance) do we base that statement... perhaps the lobster is an accurate refection of the divine, after-all, we don't really know what the divine is other than what we have concluded to be based on our own, non-divine, experience. Of course all of that presupposes that there is such a thing as the Divine... a pretty huge and poorly supported supposition.
"no other... does anything that breaks the rules of it's programmed nature..." Is that so? and we know this how, exactly... I guess we have sufficient knowledge to state that we can precisely decode the "programmed nature" of all things, after-all, if we don't have this knowledge then how can we make such a claim? Given that we know the nature of everything I am a tad confused though about why there are so many things that we don't seem to truly understand yet.
"Free will is the consequence of divine creation" Upon what exactly is this statement based? The writer has just argued that only humans have free will; however, pretty much all theological frameworks that argue divine creation also argue that the divine creator created all things... if this is the case then clearly free will is not the consequence of divine creation as only humans have it and the rest of creation is devoid of it... either that or the rest of creation also has free will and therefore there is nothing special about humanity that one could take to be a reflection of this divine creator. Make up your mind which is true, either way the statement from the original writer is not.
What utter horse. Don't get me wrong... god(s) may exist, humans may well be a reflection of god(s), free will may very well be a trait exclusive to humans... fucked if I know, but what I do know is that all of the statements made above are unsupported assumptions that exhibit very little actual thought let alone anything unique or even insightful. This is the type of my buddy would spout off 5 minutes before mistaking the slice of pizza he just dropped on the floor for a parrot at a party back in grade 11. It really isn't worthy of discussion, anyone who thinks it is in anyway thought provoking likely has difficulty arriving at any sort of thought without provocation, and I'm pretty ashamed that I actually took time out to respond to it; however, I'm all about helping people out and you clearly don't understand that you're an idiot so I figured I'd swallow my pride and help you come to that realization. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
nobody is willing/daring |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
So I'm dumb because I believe in a Creator?
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another one of god's Pokemon. |
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| Jon_Snow |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
I thought perhaps this may make for a good discussion/debate:
"Free will defines the human being... |
Religion is a bunch of nonsense man has created for people like you. If you want to believe god doesn't want you to eat bacon or is pleased you wear funny looking hats with fake hair on the side that's fine, no need to debate it, just do whatever makes you happy, but please don't try to make it into a science . Anyone has spent any time on the internet has run across people regurgitating these elaborate rationalizations for the irrational. I'm glad Moral took the time to debunk it, I find the whole exercise tiresome. |
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| AlphaStarred |
You know, since some of you are continuing to post here, let me make this very simple for you.
I challenge you to show me a single rapist, killer, terrorist, thug, etc. that radiates a kind of warm, positive energy that (let's just use one person as an example here) Eckhart Tolle does. You can find plenty of Youtube videos of him for your viewing pleasure. If you can show me a single aforementioned person that exudes a similar energy/aura as him, I will reconsider my entire "belief system" just for you.
I posted this original question on the 1st page here, and so far all I'm getting is cretin, idiot, etc. without a single person even attempting to answer this one, simple question. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| ted bundy was charming and charismatic. are they "positive warm energies"? |
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| AlphaStarred |
| Charming and charismatic are also frequent attributes of a psychopath. If you show me a video/interview with him, it would certainly be easier to answer your question. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
You know, since some of you are continuing to post here, let me make this very simple for you.
I challenge you to show me a single rapist, killer, terrorist, thug, etc. that radiates a kind of warm, positive energy that (let's just use one person as an example here) Eckhart Tolle does. You can find plenty of Youtube videos of him for your viewing pleasure. If you can show me a single aforementioned person that exudes a similar energy/aura as him, I will reconsider my entire "belief system" just for you.
I posted this original question on the 1st page here, and so far all I'm getting is cretin, idiot, etc. without a single person even attempting to answer this one, simple question. |
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-19984684
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...stripped-of-cbe |
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