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The New Super Pill??? (pg. 9)
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pixiechick
Oh, and one more thing. In case you don't feel like doing MORE homework, since it sounds like you've done SO much already, this is what the link that I posted says, in a nutshell:
"The current rate is 7 deaths per million users per year (connected to Ecstasy use). More people die fishing or eating peanuts."
That is all. |
mm yes....by homework I meant the kind that actually matters to me, and not this debate...you know....the kind we call UNIVERSITY ESSAYS, ESSAY DEFENCES, EXAMS, SEMINARS, etc??:rolleyes: |
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| charmscars |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
mm yes....by homework I meant the kind that actually matters to me, and not this debate...you know....the kind we call UNIVERSITY ESSAYS, ESSAY DEFENCES, EXAMS, SEMINARS, etc??:rolleyes: |
that's probably for the best. please give extra attention to your essay defences. |
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| crazedcanuck |
The funny thing, there wouldn't have been a debate Smitty had you simply stated " E can be dangerous, and I'd rather not take drugs because the alter my mind and the chemicals in them", instead of saying inflamatory things lke "spine melting" and "it can kill you".
People may have tried to soften your stance, but 7 pages of replies hardly would of followed. |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by charmscars
that's probably for the best. please give extra attention to your essay defences. |
You should read some of my essays...there's nothing to attack. As my British history professor wrote on my Battle of Britain paper last year..."You can kill someone with your writing." He meant that in a positive way, mind you.
I really hope you're not going to attack this Dean's Honours List member, who has already received admissions to two graduate schools with research grant offers....soley based on this argument we're having. :rolleyes: |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedcanuck
The funny thing, there wouldn't have been a debate Smitty had you simply stated " E can be dangerous, and I'd rather not take drugs because the alter my mind and the chemicals in them", instead of saying inflamatory things lke "spine melting" and "it can kill you".
People may have tried to soften your stance, but 7 pages of replies hardly would of followed. |
spine melting? since when the did I say that? Inflamatory or not...it CAN kill you. I'd like anyone to tell me it can't. That's my whole point here, if you go back and READ. |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
mm yes....by homework I meant the kind that actually matters to me, and not this debate...you know....the kind we call UNIVERSITY ESSAYS, ESSAY DEFENCES, EXAMS, SEMINARS, etc??:rolleyes: |
That's it. I'm going to personally call Paul Davenport and ask him to give you even MORE work, reading, essays and so on.
At least that way when you talk about something you'll at least have a foundation of knowledge to backup what you're saying. |
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| StereoPrincess |
E does cause damage to your brain but not as much as regular aging does. Most of the effects are transient and in fact there has been no reportable studies showing long term damage. All effects have been show to be transient. Studies done on retired clubbers in the UK show no significant deficits after 2 years (except it was really hard to find subjects that had taken only E or speed). MDMA on its own is a pretty safe bet, you can't even overdose on it because once the receptors are saturated the rest is excreted through you body functions. You can only get so ed up and you can't go beyond that. And why would you want to?
Drinking on the other hand, damages your liver because the alcohol can not be excteted until it is metabolized by two different enzymes. Except that one enzyme creates a poisonous chemical very fast while the second enzyme metabolizes the poisonous compound into water but the second enzyme does not work as fast as the first one and you get a build up of poison (you body doesn't like it and that's why you feel sick when you drink). Not to mention what it does to your brain. It floods your entire brain with a mixture of excitatory and inhibitory neurotransmitters that affect everything in the brain. You brain doesn't know what to do so it shuts down. 5-HT, the neurotransmitter that MDMA is linked to, is only in one system of the brain and cannot be found anywhere else. So you have alcohol with global damage (brain, liver, heart, etc) where as you have MDMA, smaller area of action.
The problem is that when purchasing MDMA, people usually get some funky combination of MDMA, METH (also not as bad as we are made to believe), crystal METH (a ed up derivative of METH) and various cutting agents and or substitutes. This is why you have testers, this is why you have to be informed and this is why some people don't take the risk at all and I commend them for that. Its great that you don't do drugs but why must you put down others that are smart about it and able to make their own decisions.
How to find a trustworthy dealer? Pretty much impossible and takes a lot of time. You have to ask the right questions and if they are not willing to answer them for you then you can trust them. If a dealer doesn't know anything about what they are selling then they should not be in the business at all.
Drugs are not 100% safe. Walking across the street is not 100% safe. Nothing in life is 100% safe. Get over if and live your life. Pick the risks you want to take and don't take the ones that you feel are wrong. But don't preach to others what risks they should be taking. All you can hope is that they are educated well enough to know the difference between being stupid and knowing the risks involved. |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
That's it. I'm going to personally call Paul Davenport and ask him to give you even MORE work, reading, essays and so on.
At least that way when you talk about something you'll at least have a foundation of knowledge to backup what you're saying. |
I already have enough work...and I'm doing quite well thank you. Wouldn't you just love my 85 average?:D |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
mm yes....by homework I meant the kind that actually matters to me, and not this debate...you know....the kind we call UNIVERSITY ESSAYS, ESSAY DEFENCES, EXAMS, SEMINARS, etc??:rolleyes: |
are you trying to say that none of these people know what homework is? trust me, they have done their share and have nice degrees to show for them. |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
How to find a trustworthy dealer? Pretty much impossible and takes a lot of time. You have to ask the right questions and if they are not willing to answer them for you then you can trust them. If a dealer doesn't know anything about what they are selling then they should not be in the business at all.
Drugs are not 100% safe. Walking across the street is not 100% safe. Nothing in life is 100% safe. Get over if and live your life. Pick the risks you want to take and don't take the ones that you feel are wrong. But don't preach to others what risks they should be taking. All you can hope is that they are educated well enough to know the difference between being stupid and knowing the risks involved. |
At least you're kind of agreeing with me to some extent. I have repeatedly said I'm NOT preaching to anyone....I'm trying to substantiate why I PERSONALLY do not do those drugs and would never encourage anyone else do them either. But, as is the way on the Toronto TA board.....anyone with an opinion that goes against the grain, i'm getting flamed big time for it. But hey, whatever...I'm used to it. As I said, you guys seem to think you belong to a special, eltist breed. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
I already have enough work...and I'm doing quite well thank you. Wouldn't you just love my 85 average?:D |
OK. Why don't you let us know what sort of great studying you are doing at Western? |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
are you trying to say that none of these people know what homework is? trust me, they have done their share and have nice degrees to show for them. |
um no, I'm not saying that. A lot of people on here are in university and I'm sure they have a lot of work. But this is just one casual debate and I'm not going to write research this topic like an essay for school, because I have neither the time nor inclination to do so. Why? Because I don't really care either way...I'm not getting through to anyone and they aren't getting through to me. That's what we call stuborn and opinionated citizens. |
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