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Why Athiesm is false! (pg. 17)
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Streakfury
Doesn' an atheist believe that no god exists?? It's no different from someone else believing that a god does exist. So as nobody is all-seeing and all-knowing, either can be true really.
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Apparentely no. I think that aethism is founded on the lack of belief. Therefore since there is no concrete evidence that God exists they do not believe in the concept of God. This does not mean that their beliefs revolve around the non-existence of God. Feel free to correct me you pagan heathens :). |
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| DJ RozzeR |
| Ive not read the whole thread but i would like to add a few points, firstly how can you say atheism is false ? atheism is not a word its a belief there is no logical answer like yes or no, it is a word to describe something other than what it actually is, there is no logical answer for anything in existence is you could actually use that as a word, as where did words come from ? I would be guessing in that there was a dictionary when Adam and eve around, how can you define the word atheism, its like the word GOD, how can there be GOD if GOD created the world, was his name god before he was born, therefore is not a god he is human. If I believed in god then partially I am atheist because I cannot prove that what I believe is true, I can only imagine what I believe. |
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Apparentely no. I think that aethism is founded on the lack of belief. Therefore since there is no concrete evidence that God exists they do not believe in the concept of God. This does not mean that their beliefs revolve around the non-existence of God. Feel free to correct me you pagan heathens :). |
isnt that nihilism? |
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| igottaknow |
If jesus didnt exist why would they make a bobble head doll of him?
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| ShawnGBR |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
hehe trust me, American religious types are the worst in the world. Its very very annoying to someone who has actually spent time studying his religion.
There is someone who was born in England and saying they are English, and there are people like me who had direct relatives on the Mayflower and havent been back to England since and still identify as English.
I hold open doors, stand when women enter the room, and beat the out of men who dont properly respect women. I make efforts not to drink before 5, and God, country, family, in that order, are what motivate me.
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I'm saying that I'm English because I am still a Conditional Resident (those conditions are removed soon). So I don't get to apply for dual citizenship of the US for at least a year.
K-1 Fiance Visa. Trust me to find love 5,000 miles away from the place I was born.
Oh well. Nice to hear chivalry isn't dead over here.
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| nic01445 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
isnt that nihilism? |
ni·hil·ism
n.
Philosophy.
An extreme form of skepticism that denies all existence.
A doctrine holding that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated.
Rejection of all distinctions in moral or religious value and a willingness to repudiate all previous theories of morality or religious belief.
it isn't nihilism because there is no denial of the existance of god.
example: I, an atheist, may lack the belief in god, but i do not deny that it is possible. So, i am not DENYING that god exists, i simply do not believe that he does.
make sense? |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by nic01445
ni·hil·ism
n.
Philosophy.
An extreme form of skepticism that denies all existence.
A doctrine holding that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated.
Rejection of all distinctions in moral or religious value and a willingness to repudiate all previous theories of morality or religious belief.
it isn't nihilism because there is no denial of the existance of god.
example: I, an atheist, may lack the belief in god, but i do not deny that it is possible. So, i am not DENYING that god exists, i simply do not believe that he does.
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wait a sec...i don't get that...so you aren't saying that god doesn't exist, but you think he doesn't...well by sayin you believe he doesn't isn't that denying that he exists??
i'm straight up saying its all crap...there is no god...the bible was based off of history, but that the story of a god is fabricated into it...just like if you write a book...you could use realistic situations, but your main character is fabricated... |
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| occrider |
| Well I guess if you don't believe in santa claus or the easter bunny you're a nihilist too :) |
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| whiskers |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
If jesus didnt exist why would they make a bobble head doll of him?
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ahahaha, it doesn't even look like him! :haha: |
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| Moongoose |
And you know that thats doesnt look like him becouse he has been your drinking buddy for the last few years or waht :D
Actualy its proven that jesus did exist (some nutter had to think of this crazy up :D) however no one ever proved that god existed.
BTW heres a random thought. 2000 years ago a guy went around saying that hes the son of god and that everybody should belive what he says. If someone today tried the same as he did, they would thriw him in a mental hospital. How do we know that Jesus wasnt a fraud and the guy that is just recieving a few shots to calm him down isnt the real deal |
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| whiskers |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moongoose
And you know that thats doesnt look like him becouse he has been your drinking buddy for the last few years or waht :D
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yeah, he's my drinking buddy, we hang out on the weekends... just like all those people who know how he looks like. |
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| Dervish |
| You'd recon his mates would tell him to stop spining . Tell him to lay off the beer and drugs for awhile. I mean if I had a mate who said "look I've just turned this water into wine ....honest" I think I'd be somewhat concerned. Plus he doesn't shave anymore or anything, and whats his job? He's ment to be a carpenter or something but I've never seen any pictures of him at work I recon it's another fantasy he's made up. I really think HE needs help. You drinking buddys should plan an intervention or something he needs to admit he's got a probelem thats the first stage of recovery. |
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