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Why Athiesm is false! (pg. 2)
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| caddyshack |
| quote: | Originally posted by cbxzcm
Let us all put out intelligent caps on and think above the normal level, as I explain why Theism is not only false, but crumbles entirely just by its meaning.
As we all know a theist believes there is a God or all-knowing/supreme being. Yet they cannot hold this position dogmatically. For a person to be able to make this type of statement with authority, he would have to know the universe in its entirety and to possess all knowledge. If someone could possibly know all this, then by definition he would be God.
Since this theist is not all-knowing, he cannot make a dogmatic statement on God's existence. He can only state he is certain there is a God, and this view is called faith. (If you want, I will tell you why this view is also found wanting) Thus, it is proven, that the claim God does exist crumbles under examination |
that was perfect;) |
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| caddyshack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
so what piece of knowledge led you to to the positive ontological stance that God does exist? |
cause momy and daddy said we are all going to hell if we don't when we were little kids who believed in the easter bunny. Then when we got a little older we hated going to church until we hit puberty and realized there are tons of hot chicks there. To this day we still go because the sex is good and the wine is free |
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| mezzir |
| quote: | Originally posted by zarathustra
Could God microwave a buritto so hot that not even He could eat it? |
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| `pr0digy |
| quote: | Originally posted by caddyshack
cause momy and daddy said we are all going to hell if we don't when we were little kids who believed in the easter bunny. Then when we got a little older we hated going to church until we hit puberty and realized there are tons of hot chicks there. To this day we still go because the sex is good and the wine is free |
lol, and I thought I was weird :p |
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| NeoBizzaro |
| quote: | | We were all born atheists (it's the default perspective), so what piece of knowledge led you to to the positive ontological stance that God does exist? |
Actually, I would think that the default perspective would be agnostic. When you are born you don't believe either way. To be an atheist one must first have a concept of God and then believe that to be false. |
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| placebo |
| quote: | Originally posted by speedracer_mec
If someone could possibly know all this, then by definition he would be God.
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But Athiests do not believe in god.
So you saying that they would have to be "God" to know this crumbles under your examination.
Good day. |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoBizzaro
Actually, I would think that the default perspective would be agnostic. When you are born you don't believe either way. To be an atheist one must first have a concept of God and then believe that to be false. |
No, when you're first born you don't believe in a God. That makes you an atheist.
The position of agnosticism concerns one's stance to theological debate: namely, that the question of first cause is either impossible to know, or that there isn't enough evidence to swing towards a position of belief (theism) or disbelief (atheism). To claim that one is an agnostic is to imply that one has considered the question of first cause, yet doesn't see enough reason to either embrace or reject the idea of God.
In my opinion, though, agnosticism is just a fence-sitting cop-out position. If you don't believe in a God, quite simply, you're an atheist: why are so-called "agnostics" afraid to admit this to themselves? |
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| caddyshack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
No, when you're first born you don't believe in a God. That makes you an atheist.
The position of agnosticism concerns one's stance to theological debate: namely, that the question of first cause is either impossible to know, or that there isn't enough evidence to swing towards a position of belief (theism) or disbelief (atheism). To claim that one is an agnostic is to imply that one has considered the question of first cause, yet doesn't see enough reason to either embrace or reject the idea of God.
In my opinion, though, agnosticism is just a fence-sitting cop-out position. If you don't believe in a God, quite simply, you're an atheist: why are so-called "agnostics" afraid to admit this to themselves? |
i think this thread has become too serious. |
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| xKaoSx |
It's rediculous because he thwarts his own argument with his own reasoning.
btw
I am Agnostic :D |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by caddyshack
i think this thread has become too serious. |
*strokes beard*
Depends on your definition of "serious"....
Hey, did you hear the joke about the peanut butter? |
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| Fire999 |
As Shane once put it, it's "Too Late to Turn".
God exists in people's mind, if and only if, he or she is subjected to an upbringing that advocates the belief of a Higher Being. This belief builds over time, it's a logical progression of Faith (as the wise men so put forth)
In essence, we do not, will not, have not and shall never see God. So essentially, Theism is make-believe. Like how human beings manufacture lies, wars, cars, cigarettes, weapons of mass destruction (damn...could Einstein be classified as a God as his formula resulted in a Massacre on Hiroshima & Nagasaki), trance...etc, what you see on Earth is a Consequence of Human Actions and Geographical inevitabilities.
You can only take in so much in your lifetime, so straight up, if you are going to be bothered by Theists around you, then you are just like one of the sons (that God has beamed down on a Cross to die) LOL!!!!
Talk about Blasphemous Rumours! ;) |
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| whiskers |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
*strokes beard*
Depends on your definition of "serious"....
Hey, did you hear the joke about the peanut butter? |
you have a beard???
pics or stfu!
i always wanted to see what smart people like you looked like :D |
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