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Why Athiesm is false! (pg. 9)
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| speedracer_mec |
| someone told me," i dont believe in god, but i fear him if he does exist...." |
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| DaveSaenz |
| quote: | Originally posted by xTranceGurlx
I agreee soooooo smart dave |
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I just have moments of inspiration sometimes, but other than that, I be a fool.:toothless
| quote: | Originally posted by speedracer_mec
someone told me," i dont believe in god, but i fear him if he does exist...." |
I would say to that person, "How could you fear something you have no belief in?";) |
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| Evan Almae |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSaenz
Of course it's also a possibility that the authors of the constituent books of the bible didn't mean for those who would later read it to take the myths and parables contained within it as literal fact and history. Perhaps they were elaborate fairy tales contrived on the part of these authors merely to teach lessons about morality. As I've said before, I view religious faith and morality as two seperate entities. Religion is merely a vehicle to teach morality, or at least what some perceive to be "moral." |
That's exactly how I've come to see it. I used to think it was just a stupid book everyone based their lives on, when alls they are, are a bunch of fake stories. I one day "woke up" and realised maybe they are just therw to show morals. Read it as a fiction book and gain a moral from every read. Your essay, Dave, was a great read!;) |
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| DaveSaenz |
Jesus is a bitch to find
By Denise Berger
5/8/03
I don’t know too much about religion because my Dad is Jewish, my mom is Protestant and I’m confused. My parents never raised my sisters and I with religion because I think they were too busy being alcoholics and having extramarital affairs, two hobbies that really suck up time otherwise well spent with your children. But when I turned 12, my dad put down the bottle and plopped me on his knee and asked me if I wanted to be Jewish or not. I gave him the ever-Jewish answer with “what’s in it for me?” He just laughed and passed me the Manischevitz. He told me that there would be tons of money and a big party but Aunt Silvia with the moustache who always wears a tiara to family functions would have to be invited. I agreed nonetheless, color me green and call me Yid.
The next day at school, I flaunted my new Jew status. I told the Lipschitz twins who then informed me of what hard work it took to be Jewish. They told me about the Torah and the Hebrew School classes and how I would have to take a crash course if I wanted to have my Bat Mitzvah by the age of thirteen. All in all I decided that learning how to read backwards and spinning a dradel just didn’t fit into my schedule. My Grandma Joanie almost keeled over when I told her I changed my mind about becoming Jewish. She had already started crocheting my turquoise sequin dress for the occasion.
I was still on a quest for finding my religion. I decided to try the Catholics next. I come from a long line of alcoholics and regret and shame were already big aspects of my life. What the hell, I thought, might as well give Jesus a whirl. I enrolled at Immaculate Heart, got fitted for my kilt and said goodbye to coed public education. It wasn’t easy though; I was the only person in the entire school with a hooknose and a last name that screamed, “I killed Jesus.” But those God fearing bitches really opened their arms to me. It turns out that most Catholics, especially prepubescent girls, are the devil incarnate and I fit right in with them.
What I feared the most was the twice a week mandatory Religion class. I felt better when I saw that the teacher was a hot thirty-something man with a full beard. It’s hard being around so many chicks. Mr. Boyan took a liking to me as well. He appreciated my “see it to believe it” attitude. He explained how Religion is all about Faith and that I would probably never have it because I was just to damn cynical for a 14 year old. He was right. I dropped out of God High at the end of my freshman year. The only things I really took away from Catholic School were, 1.) How to smoke in a school bathroom without getting the kicked out of you by a nun, 2.) Lesbians are cool and 3.) I will forever and always have a thing for older hairy guys.
There were a couple more failed attempts at trying to find Jesus. I thought I found him on the Internet but it turned out to be just another link to a bukkake porn site. Is nothing sacred? All in all, I’ve stopped searching. I figure if Google can’t find him, then I never will. I’m not so sure how the lack of religion in my life has effected my inability to function as a normal human being but I am sure that if I do have children I’m going to raise them as devil worshipers. That way, they’ll have religion in their lives but they won’t have to go to church and all that bull.
Jesus Christ, I’m brilliant. |
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| Romain |
religion is a good thing for sure... associated with sciences so it's not totally blind...
agree with the fact it brings morals... and to everybody, quite the reverse to education, that isn't provided everywhere.
but we have to not forget what this world is made of... i don't think it's really good to believe strongly in things unproven, though everybody needs to believe in something. I "woke up" like Evan, when i got interested in sciences, and when i got more knowledge... it isn't new for anyone to say that everything that happens here is explained, and follows some *rules*
the idea of Someone that could, satisfying the request of some prayers, break these rules and change anything, seems totally nonsense to me |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by davinox
Nothing can be proven.
We all live in our own "dreams" as to what reality and existence are.
Some visions of reality are more ridiculous than others. (A being who centered the Universe around the Earth, planted evidence of a completely different Universe, and have a vague set of rules that deny human instinct to escape eternal torment in a physical manifestation of your conciousness [which, by the way, is nothing but a byproduct of neuro connections]) |
I could say that everything here is a dream of mine. That includes you and your post. Ultimately I could hardly disprove it. Nothing could confirm the existence of (my) reality. The only ligical way to refute it would be saying that if everything is a dream, than the idea of it being a dream is part of the dream and you end up having a logical paradox.
Just to get some relativity of our "stable" world view ;) |
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| davinox |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
I could say that everything here is a dream of mine. That includes you and your post. Ultimately I could hardly disprove it. Nothing could confirm the existence of (my) reality. The only ligical way to refute it would be saying that if everything is a dream, than the idea of it being a dream is part of the dream and you end up having a logical paradox.
Just to get some relativity of our "stable" world view ;) |
i wasn't talking about that. i was using a different definition of the word "dream."
oh well, this thread is dead anyways |
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| poli |
| well there are spirits/ghosts around...so when we go we dont really die, there is so many things out there that we dont know about simply saying "there is no god" is ignorant because you can never truly know until you die...thats my 2cents |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by poli
well there are spirits/ghosts around...so when we go we dont really die, there is so many things out there that we dont know about simply saying "there is no god" is ignorant because you can never truly know until you die...thats my 2cents |
I'll give you $0.0000000007 for it. |
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| Orbax |
This is called rebirth. I chose it because it matches the abstract bull yall are talking bout :P |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by poli
well there are spirits/ghosts around...so when we go we dont really die, there is so many things out there that we dont know about simply saying "there is no god" is ignorant because you can never truly know until you die...thats my 2cents |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3044607.stm |
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| Streakfury |
Anyone (such as myself) who doesn't believe in any kind of God only does so because there is no hard evidence to say that one exists. You cant say that Athiesm is wrong unless you know everything, because by that logic, a believer must be able to prove God exists, which they cant.
I personally dont believe anything that cant be scientifically explained.
:)
EDIT: On a side note, what do religious people think of the String Theory of the universe?? Sounds like a promising theory about where everything came from to me. |
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