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Hamas just got owned! *WARNING: PICS* (pg. 13)
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
And since word of a terrorist can be trusted? |
Just as trustful as that terrorist Ariel Sharon..only difference is that he is in a suit and controls the military, and Yissin was in control of militants without a military |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Just as trustful as that terrorist Ariel Sharon..only difference is that he is in a suit and controls the military, and Yissin was in control of militants without a military |
why do you and others like you continuously turn a blind eye toward the differences between the Israelis and the terrorists? The Jews go after the terrorists themselves and their leaders, while the islamic fanatics blow up buses, restauarants where innocenet bystanders are just going about their day. That is a huge difference. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
why do you and others like you continuously turn a blind eye toward the differences between the Israelis and the terrorists? The Jews go after the terrorists themselves and their leaders, while the islamic fanatics blow up buses, restauarants where innocenet bystanders are just going about their day. That is a huge difference. |
The state sponsored terrorist actions of Sharons government far surpass the minute damage a suicide bomber commits. Far more destruction and death on palestinian land, which is still being taken away from them by the growing settler population.
You try shopping for food at a market and seeing a misile blow up a crowd just to target a militant in his car driving by.
That explosion is no different from the explosion that happens on a bus.
Its sad that when 4 Israeli's are unfortunately killed in a terrorist act it is shoved down the throats of passive media consumers....yet when dozens of palestinians are killed before that terrorist attack in Israel, it is a time of "relative calm". |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
The state sponsored terrorist actions of Sharons government far surpass the minute damage a suicide bomber commits. Far more destruction and death on palestinian land, which is still being taken away from them by the growing settler population. |
A great deal of which are actually caused by Palestinians themselves, and as recent evidence has started to indicate (which was presented in the PF but I'm sure you weren't going to mention here), much of them combatants despite being civilians. I think the whole "state-sponsored terrorism" theme is getting obsolete... Palestine's terrorism is state-sponsored, Israel is acting in defense.
| quote: | | That explosion is no different from the explosion that happens on a bus. |
Yes, it is, because this explosion targeted an islamic terrorist leader and his bodyguards - a decidedly military target - whereas the explosion that happens on a bus is a cowardly act for the sole purpose of killing as many innocent civilians as possible. Come on Cyrus - you've got a lot of good points, but I think you slack off when you argue about politics in the Toronto forum. The rationality of your post is poor at best.
| quote: | | Its sad that when 4 Israeli's are unfortunately killed in a terrorist act it is shoved down the throats of passive media consumers....yet when dozens of palestinians are killed before that terrorist attack in Israel, it is a time of "relative calm". |
I suppose we should all be of the mind that death is death regardless of how or why it happened. I am not, however, and the critical fact that you ignore is why those Palestinians are killed. Yes, sure, there are some nutty IDF soldiers that are killing civilians, but many of the Palestinians who are killed are attacking soldiers or getting caught in the crossfire of someone else who attacked them. If the Palestinians had weapons, they'd be killing those soldiers and the deaths would be Israeli deaths instead.
To Silke, Slag, Provitex, and all the other people posting the same dry arguments over and over again in this thread - supporters of Israel just can't win with you, can they? You scold and complain about how they're oppressing the people and killing civilians, and yet when they pick out the highest-level military targets and perform a perfect covert assassination killing no innocents whatsoever, it's still not good enough for you.
Was the target not good enough? The leader of the single most popular organization in Palestine with the sole mandate of obliterating the state of Israel?
Or maybe Israel should have just politely asked him to turn himself into the nearest police station? Tell him to stop hiding? Tell him to leave his bodyguards at home that day?
Seems like the only way for Israel to appease the likes of you would be to unilaterally surrender to all the terrorists' demands. Well, it's a damn good thing that YOU are not the ones that Israel cares about. One thing to add would be how you vigilantly speak of human rights and refer to the U.N. resolution which [according to some interpretations] states that Israel should be withdrawing from Palestine. And yet, when speaking historically, that same U.N. is the entity that you bash constantly for helping to implement the initial partitioning. So when it suits your purposes, the U.N. is right, but when it doesn't, they are wrong. Speaking of double standards...
I'm not even going to comment on all the America-bashing; I think Canadians have a way of being insecure and feeling the need to constantly bash the USA, but honestly, this country is , and maybe you should take a good hard look at our own pathetic left-wing communist slacker welfare state before you bash them. |
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| EvilTree |
| ^Let's not veer the topic off the track. |
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| djeso |
| quote: | Originally posted by drgoodvibe
kill one.. and another will take his place only more zelous.
Killing them won't bring peace, it won't solve anything. Why won't people realize that. |
Very Good Point ... hence is there really hope for true peace? |
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| disko-kandi |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
My point is that this is not a thread to discuss Iraq/A-stan/US is evil. :D |
the US has it's sticky fingers in every pot! israel has been backed by the US financially and arms-wise for decades, as the palestinians by the muslims and other arab countries. so don't tell me i'm steering off topic cos it's all connected & inter-related!
the mid-east conflict is merely the tip of the ice berg - of a much bigger problem than u can imagine! it is this conflict that is the cause for the fault-line, or rather, rift b/w the western and arab world!
... this is not US bashing, this is FACT! and don't excuse their actions either. noone in this game is innocent! they are all criminals - whatever side they are on!!! this constant tit-for-tat is really starting to get on my nerves b/c NOTHING will EVER be solved with this freakin ping-pong game! the only way it will ever stop is if someone drops a goddamm nuclear bomb on them and wipes them all out! sorry ... i'm getting really pissed off here now! i'm tired of seeing this constant useless blood shedding every time i turn on the TV. i don't even watch tv anymore cost it's nothing but the BAD NEWS!
of course noone's going to ever back down and each wants the last word! so ... let's keep going with this holocaust!! ...the jews and israelis whine about WWII and hitler ... hahaha!! sorry, but that's a good joke! ARE THEY ANY BETTER? ask yourself! :wtf: |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by disko-kandi
of course noone's going to ever back down and each wants the last word! so ... let's keep going with this holocaust!! ...the jews and israelis whine about WWII and hitler ... hahaha!! sorry, but that's a good joke! ARE THEY ANY BETTER? ask yourself! :wtf: |
It's bad enough that you automatically equate Jews with Israel, but the fact that you equate both of them to Hitler and the Holocaust is pathetic. Honestly, what a despiccable comment, I just lost a lot of respect for you.
As for the rest of your post... deal with it. Conflict is the single most prominent aspect of human nature, as it has been for many thousands of years dating back to when we lived in caves and had to kill animals for sustenance and fight for shelter in cold weather. What the hell are you expecting, that one day the entire human race will be holding hands and dancing under the rainbow in a massive cuddle puddle? Get real - that would undermine the very meaning of our existence. |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
While I tend to lean to the Jewish side just a little, I am in fact in favour of two states.
But the Jews DO go on ad nauseum about the Holocaust. As an historian, I probably know just how terrible it was more than most Jews do. But there have been many, many similar persecutions throughout history and it's wrong for any Israeli to use the Holocaust as justification for doing what they please. |
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| Avro |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
hmmm interesting theory .. we could nuke the Guv to solve its overcrowding issue too !
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oh my god that was ultra funny
anyway I'm not about to start reading this whole thread cause they are all just miserable repeats of another
but I will propose the idea that Goodwin's Law will eventually take effect if it hasn't yet already. pop corn or what:
http://members.tripod.com/~goodwin_2/law.html |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
^Let's not veer the topic off the track. |
too late ! lol ..
i'd get into this debate, but i have an essay to finish for a course .. DigiNut care to write it for me ??
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
too late ! lol ..
i'd get into this debate, but i have an essay to finish for a course .. DigiNut care to write it for me ??
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What are you offering? |
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