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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mizzuno
The idea behind the separation of church and state is that the state cannot set a standard religion and discriminate against others. Religion or lack thereof obviously has an influence on what one believes, and it will always be incorporated into laws. I just find it interesting that you abhor war yet embrace abortion, its killing either way whether you want to acknowledge that or not. I am not anti abortion, but i do believe that my tax dollars should not be used for your abortion. If you wanna have an abortion go ahead, just don't use my money, take some responsibility instead of relying on the state.
Mizz1 |
mizz when is ur bitchass gonna go out? |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by trunks1022
+1. i also like tatas... :eyes: |
tatas own bush:haha: |
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| mizzuno |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
tatas own bush:haha: |
hehe, lee i had a fire at my house, all my gear is ed, lotsa really nice shirts and pants, I'll come out when u finally pick me up.
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| trunks1022 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mizzuno
hehe, lee i had a fire at my house, all my gear is ed, lotsa really nice shirts and pants, I'll come out when u finally pick me up.
Mizz |
holy ! :eyes: |
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| mizzuno |
| quote: | Originally posted by trunks1022
holy ! :eyes: |
Yea its unfortunate, i wasn't there when it happened, but i had lotsa nice stuff from hugo boss xacus etc etc that hopefully the insurance comapany will pay for.... |
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| klingklang77 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mizzuno
Why is it that so many people have so little understanding of the US system. Bush has no control over gay marriage, he did propose a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage
Mizzuno |
my point being, he is trying so hard to do it, because of his own beliefs. |
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| mizzuno |
| quote: | Originally posted by klingklang77
my point being, he is trying so hard to do it, because of his own beliefs. |
I don't agree, while it may be his belief i think it was done so that other state supreme courts don't start legislating, that of course is not their job.
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| drizzt81 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mizzuno
If you wanna have an abortion go ahead, just don't use my money, take some responsibility instead of relying on the state.
Mizz1 |
but that isn't really what Bush wants to do. If I understand him correctly, he wants to deny a woman the opportunity (though I think it should be a RIGHT) to have an abortion.
In additon, Bush is strictly against partial birth abortion. This means that if a woman's life is put in danger by delivering, she cannot have an abortion. Isn't that state-sanctioned murder of the woman? I cannot wait for the first time this occurs. The family will sue the f'n out of the government (or at least they should, since this is in no way different than a company building a car with the fuel tank in the wrong place) |
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| mizzuno |
| quote: | Originally posted by drizzt81
but that isn't really what Bush wants to do. If I understand him correctly, he wants to deny a woman the opportunity (though I think it should be a RIGHT) to have an abortion.
In additon, Bush is strictly against partial birth abortion. This means that if a woman's life is put in danger by delivering, she cannot have an abortion. Isn't that state-sanctioned murder of the woman? I cannot wait for the first time this occurs. The family will sue the f'n out of the government (or at least they should, since this is in no way different than a company building a car with the fuel tank in the wrong place) |
Ok the right to have an abortion is the right to kill, any way you cut it, i just find it ironic that the same people willing to sanction abortion are the the same people who have issues with war. The right to have an abortion is a very loose interpretation of the constitution, one which the original drafters surely did not forsee and or sanction. As i said though, i am not saying a woman should not have that right but that i should not have to pay for it. As a taxpayer I have that right. Secondly, I would like to see the statistics on how many times a womans life is in danger due to pregnancy, I cannot make an informed decision without that info. Of course you will not be able to find that info because it is not readily available due to privacy laws, so i'm not sure how one can come to an informed decision. Third, suing the gov is equivalent to suing the US taxpayers, after all thats my money.
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| trunks1022 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mizzuno
Ok the right to have an abortion is the right to kill, any way you cut it, i just find it ironic that the same people willing to sanction abortion are the the same people who have issues with war. |
heh i love the spin both sides are putting on this.
pro-war, anti-abortion = people are dying say opponents
pro-choice, anti-war = people (according to opponents definition of people. i guess i just opened up a can of worms) are dying say opponents
it'll never end! :) |
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| mizzuno |
| quote: | Originally posted by trunks1022
heh i love the spin both sides are putting on this.
pro-war, anti-abortion = people are dying say opponents
pro-choice, anti-war = people (according to opponents definition of people. i guess i just opened up a can of worms) are dying say opponents
it'll never end! :) |
Spin would presuppose that I am distorting facts. I am not necessarily pro war, its a dumb label, its like saying i'm anti peace. I believe that pacifism ultimately leads to even greater destabilization, history tends to be on my side. So before you say i'm spinning lets present facts and compare. I don't need to spin because i have no agenda and i'm not running for office.
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| trunks1022 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mizzuno
Spin would presuppose that I am distorting facts. I am not necessarily pro war, its a dumb label, its like saying i'm anti peace. I believe that pacifism ultimately leads to even greater destabilization, history tends to be on my side. So before you say i'm spinning lets present facts and compare. I don't need to spin because i have no agenda and i'm not running for office.
Mizzuno |
u're right, spin might not be the proper word for this... what i'm trying to get at is that both sides are pretty much accusing the other of killing people |
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