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fr0st
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Originally posted by verndogs
Doesn't matter, Clinton still lied under oath. Letting him get away with it just sets a very bad example. Doesn't matter what you lie about, it's the fact that you lied that mattered


least someone understands me... It could be about anything... But if i were to lie in court i would be in jail right now.. But due to his power and influence he got off ....
DJ Eco
how bout somebody who DISAGREES WITH US poses some supporting info for THEIR argument, instead of either bashing Kerry, blaming Clinton, or telling us we have no right to "bitch and moan". it shows that Bush has no record to run on.
verndogs
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Originally posted by fr0st
least someone understands me... It could be about anything... But if i were to lie in court i would be in jail right now.. But due to his power and influence he got off ....


don't forget about the definition of "is"!
BitchBoyNYC
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Originally posted by QuickStep
I cannot agree anymore.

I am just sick with the fact that Bush is in office for another 4 years, and Chaney controlling the strings.
I'm sick of a war that has no substance.
I'm sick lies and false promises.
I'm sick the rich getting richer

But I am truely sick that my brother has to perform a second tour in Iraq and my ing nephew and niece may be called to action because of an increase in military involment.

you Bush. If you think I'm being over bias and offensive, open your eyes and please prove to me why we would want a phoney back in office?

I didn't vote based on who's a better canidate. If you actually believe that Bush was a better canidate, then you must be high. Neither were better canidates. I voted by track record, Bush did not do anything for the country in his term except hurt it. So why not put someone new in there? At least they couldn't do worst then Bush, but now we get Bush to do worst then Bush.

I'm just disgusted at our country today...




You know what, I'm getting sick of hearing this bull about 9-11 and this war on terrorism being un-just. How many people out there actually lost friends, family, or someone that you had the pleasure of knowing like I did on that horrid day? How many of you were down at Groud Zero like I was to smell the horrible odor of burning flesh and seeing body parts, watching grown adults cry, helping remove rubble, trying to tell families to stay optimistic that we were doing everything humanly possible to find their missing loved ones that had so tradgically benn stolen from them? How many of you gave your days and nights away like some of the heros that did it in Ground Zero and at The Pentagon horror sight? Maybe if you experienced some of the horrors that I did, this war on terrorism wouldn't be so un-just.
On a different note, We should have pulled our troops out of Iraq soon after we removed Saddam Hussein out of his dictaorship rule over a people that were deprived the right of freedom that we have that we so often take for granted. Mr. Bush ed that up. Just like he ed up on many of the issues Erin and the rest of u brought up. If it were up to me, I wouldn't have voted for any of the candidates, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna give up my right to vote. I wish we could have had better choices, but fact of the matter is we were delt a hand that wasn't so great, now we have to do our best to work with it.
fr0st
I have not slated either bush kerry or clinton im just stating facts... I disagree with a number of things bush has done. Any president during a time of war is going to have a strong opposition wether or not hes a good president. But all i hear here is that bush started the war in iraw when it fact was we the people of the US. After the attack on the twin towers the majority of the US wanted blood and revenge bush gave the people what the want...

And for all the new yorkers i find this to be the biggest joke of all. I sit on the train and its rare you see someone smiling at another person or even speaking to another. matter of fact for the most part on the subway people rather stand than sit next to someone.. When you solve that problem maybe we can live in a world without war until then we shall have to endure it...
BitchBoyNYC
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Originally posted by fr0st
Clinton lied under "oath" the guy was a ing joke....

tell me what exactly has bush done to the country??



The Clinton administration is a major reason why our Country is in the state we are in. BTW, I'm a registered Democrat, and I'm not ashamed to say that I voted Republican.
sym
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Originally posted by fr0st
I have not slated either bush kerry or clinton im just stating facts... I disagree with a number of things bush has done. Any president during a time of war is going to have a strong opposition wether or not hes a good president. But all i hear here is that bush started the war in iraw when it fact was we the people of the US. After the attack on the twin towers the majority of the US wanted blood and revenge bush gave the people what the want...

And for all the new yorkers i find this to be the biggest joke of all. I sit on the train and its rare you see someone smiling at another person or even speaking to another. matter of fact for the most part on the subway people rather stand than sit next to someone.. When you solve that problem maybe we can live in a world without war until then we shall have to endure it...


subway politics has nothing to do with real politics and real wars.

Besides, I don't think people not wanting to sit next to each other has anything to do with animosity.
fr0st
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Originally posted by BitchBoyNYC
The Clinton administration is a major reason why our Country is in the state we are in. BTW, I'm a registered Democrat, and I'm not ashamed to say that I voted Republican.


This i know.. Things dont happen overnight.. The greater changes happen overtime... Clinton is the reason we are in this.. Can anyone tell me what clinton did for the US?
fr0st
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Originally posted by sym
subway politics has nothing to do with real politics and real wars.

Besides, I don't think people not wanting to sit next to each other has anything to do with animosity.


You obviosly are not grasping the point of what i said... I dunno maybe someday you will...
sym
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Originally posted by fr0st
You obviosly are not grasping the point of what i said... I dunno maybe someday you will...


no im grasping your point, but the point your trying to get across has nothing to do with an unjust war in iraq.

I don't think anyone was hoping for world peace through the results of this election.

DanAX
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Originally posted by Vlad
Your not reading what I wrote, I said, although they werent directly involved in the attacks they do aid the groups that did attack us. Whether it is with hidden facilities or supplying them with weapons. Sorry, I dont think we should be asking countries that supply Iraq with these weapons (France) whether its ok to leave a crater there. On another note, France also voted against us fighting in Afghanistan, which is where the majority of these terrorists do co-exist.


Attacking IRAQ has nothing to do or barely anything to with 911...
It's just a lame excuse BUSH family use to get what they want...(may be OIL?:rolleyes: :rolleyes: )
a follow-up to finish the unfinished job by OLD BUSH
DJ Eco
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Originally posted by BitchBoyNYC
You know what, I'm getting sick of hearing this bull about 9-11 and this war on terrorism being un-just. How many people out there actually lost friends, family, or someone that you had the pleasure of knowing like I did on that horrid day? How many of you were down at Groud Zero like I was to smell the horrible odor of burning flesh and seeing body parts, watching grown adults cry, helping remove rubble, trying to tell families to stay optimistic that we were doing everything humanly possible to find their missing loved ones that had so tradgically benn stolen from them? How many of you gave your days and nights away like some of the heros that did it in Ground Zero and at The Pentagon horror sight? Maybe if you experienced some of the horrors that I did, this war on terrorism wouldn't be so un-just.


i was there to see the burning flesh and rubble and see body parts. i was one of those families being told by ppl to be optimistic about our family members that were stolen from us. my dad was in the WTC. i was 100% FOR the war in Afghanistan. stop referring to Iraq as a "war on terrorism", because it wasnt at all. none of the hijackers were Iraqi, and it is known that Hussein and Bin Laden are enemies. did u have a dad in the WTC???? cos if u did, maybe u would understand that having 10,000 troops in Afghanistan and having 100's of thousands in Iraq, is no WAR ON TERRORISM at all.... especially with Bin Laden alive and well, making videos taunting us. theres nothing u can possibly say to that, now is there?
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