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The Official TOTA Multicultural Dating Thread (pg. 14)
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| quote: | Originally posted by naesean3
and yet again - over and over - why are people who think it is so STUPID to post in this thread - keep posting in it???
seems like ganging up to me........correct me if I'm wrong
your points have been made - you think those of us in here that have posted are STUPID, WRONG and DISGUSTING (in your opinion - your own words) - so do us a favour and dont talk to us when you see us out - for obviously you think we are all disgusting racist female degrading dumb bastards and have no place in your social circles.....:rolleyes:
I think that Fahad was just stating his diverse REAL acceptance of other cultures - (not degrading women) it's one thing to say you like/get along with people from other/diverse cultural backgrounds and a totally different thing to actually date/go out/marry someone from another cultural background..... IMO
the people that seem to have the most problem with this thread and shouting about racism seem to be white....LOL...anglosaxon/caucasian/european whatever! (diginut aside of course) from what I can see....
and I would be quite curious to know if any of these people complaining have seriously dated outside their own skin colours.....
I was gonna post something last night but thought meh.....now I am posting what I should have posted yesterday.
FAHAD wasn't bragging about sticking his DICK in anyone - nor was he trying to be a COR whore and post about "I am cooler than you because I macked a persian/french/spanish woman with a D-CUP"
the same as we talk about various DJ'S/TRACKS/GENRES/CLUBS/CLOTHING BRANDS/CELLPHONES/SHAVING CREAMS etc....we like, enjoy and have experienced and can comment on rightly so - I think this was just a thread to probe those on here for their cultural experiences beyond a "sometimes" superficial/politcally correct friendship level - in which dating obviously implies.
Here's a thought - regarding myself personally - I may be white but I am gay - so I have felt/heard derogatory akin to "racial" type slurs and ignorant comments just the same if not worse (although it is not politically correct to say call people niggger/chink/gook/wetback.........it still seems fine to call people "fags" no matter what race you are)
THAT - some ed up logic there if you ask me.
It is even more sad really when someone who lives here that is non-white makes this comment to me or gays in general - for how in the hell do they think they have any right saying that at all considering their cultures are still in its infancy of true social acceptance among the so-called white majority in North America. Talk about double-standards. We are in the same boat basically WTF????
we are all about breaking down "racial divides" yet still have major problems with breaking down our OWN races "sexual divides".
Pathetic!
also it is one thing for people to say they "know" and don't "mind" gay people and ACTUALLY being a gay persons friend and accepting/embracing them as an equal person - try to argue with that one people - for real!
The comments of "well I don't mind that he's gay - as long as he doesn't hit on me"
you hear that all the time......
well that comment implies fear - and fear fuels stereotypes and ignorance - and ignorance begets homophobia - while stereotypes perpetuate it. Just like fear, ignorance and stereotypes perptuate racism.
do you hear people saying "well I don't mind that they are Nigerian/Chinese/Pakistani/Persian...etc - as long as they don't try to marry me and change my culture?????"
no you don't so WTF?
or maybe you don't hear this because it is polically incorrect to say so - but silently people harbour fear of other races and do not go out of their "ethnic" comfort circle - so this will not be an issue that they will have to truly confront. I think this IS much more the case.
and that is what my impression of this thread was intended for - a conversational platform to express our diversity and REAL acceptance of one another on a level that is not so "skin-deep" and superfically politically correct as friendships sometimes are based upon.
so after posting all of this - do I still get branded as "STUPID" and "WRONG" and "DISGUSTING" by those who think this thread has no value.......
I would like to think I tried to make an honest effort, even draw some simliarlities to shed some light on some issues that are beyond a few peoples comfort levels and there is absolutely nothing STUPID OR WRONG OR DISGUSTING with that at all.....if I reach even one person to help them see through the bigoted crap that they think they can get away with while being righteous and self-serving than my posting was not in "VAIN" at all.
thanks for reading :D |
amen to that brotha +1:D |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by naesean3
sometimes.........
but other times far from it
I call it straight/gay
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How did this thread suddenly turn into a discussion about gays or gay bashing?
I respect your opinion Sean and for the most part I agree with you, but wtf? Did you have a bad day or something? :conf:
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| jon jon |
| LMAO, I'm equally confused. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by dance2dabeat
I AGREE WITH SEAN 100%
wow no offense but some of you ppl are really taking this thread totally the WRONG WAY!!! :rolleyes: |
YAY Kellbears! :) *hugs*
so ture. |
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| naesean3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
How did this thread suddenly turn into a discussion about gays or gay bashing?
I respect your opinion Sean and for the most part I agree with you, but wtf? Did you have a bad day or something? :conf:
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that one comment was directed toward Jon Jon's "drama queen" comment - that is all....LOL
the main discussion post was basically some parallels I was trying to draw about open cultural dating and relationships. Racial or sexual divides hinder people from mingling/discovering themselves as people and their fulfillment limited to percieved acceptances brought about by peer acceptance.
when it comes to me personally - gay or straight/black or white - it does not matter - I do not limit myself friendship wise or partner wise to any of these so-called societal norms.....
not that I had a bad day - quite the contrary - but felt the thread needed some clarification and was really trying to encourage the discussion that I think was orignally intended by its author - racial and multicutural embracing and openess to mixed relationships
I may have taken it one step further by introducing another element into the mix - but I felt it relevant and tried to substantiate my claims as best I could.
some personal thoughts came through in this post but only because it made me reflect on the times when I had a couple of good friends growing up - that felt alot of peer pressure and took some ribbing in the name of friendship because of me being gay - at the time it was so very hurtful and made me feel so bad about myself that someone else was being made to hurt because of something that I had no control over and didn't even really understand myself (my sexuality). I didn't have "other" gay people to go to for comfort/understanding/support I had to deal with this on my own and if anything it made me realize from a young age that people have a hard time going outside of their comfort circles and the ones that do I was drawn to intellectually and physically.
I have even had the experience a few times to be close enough with certain male friends to have shared some "intimate" moments that for the benefit of the other person involved - deeply impacted their psyche and therefor understood/reaffirmed themselves better had we not even had met in the first place. These times I cherish forever as a reflection of my character - for that is a bond which rarely happens without dire repercussions, uncomfortableness and anxiety of embarassment.
those words/images might make some uncomfortable - but those were bonding moments in the deepest sense of the word and meaning - connections like that are forever - and for those moments in my life I am so very blessed to own.
Again it is all about comfort levels - if only people were able to venture outside of these boxes that they place themselves in - they wouldn't have to spend so long trying to truly find themselves.
A person is a person - first and foremost
Why limit yourself to such a marginal percentage of fish in the sea - he who casts his nets for a particular fish shall work much longer and hard to secure his bounty. He who casts his nets wide open and waits becomes rewarded more readily and goes home most satisfied with his catches.
I have had great pleasure getting to know and be friends with some of you on these forums and although I do sometimes feel an outsider because of my of sexuality orientation - I would hope that would never be a hinderance in our ability to connect beyond the superficial comfort zone that many of you come from in your pasts.
again thanks for reading :D |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by naesean3
the main discussion post was basically some parallels I was trying to draw about open cultural dating and relationships. Racial or sexual divides hinder people from mingling/discovering themselves as people and their fulfillment limited to percieved acceptances brought about by peer acceptance. |
That was my point from the beginning, though. Some people may try to spin this as being a thread about racial/cultural acceptance, but it is really a thread about racial/cultural divisions. If someone is able to instantly rhyme off all the various ethnicities of their current or ex-relationships then it shows they're paying way too much attention to that part... |
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| loconet |
wow, this is still going? Where is the love on this thread?? :p
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| Tordan |
| ^^ Tina Turner would ask what's love got to do with it? |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
If someone is able to instantly rhyme off all the various ethnicities of their current or ex-relationships then it shows they're paying way too much attention to that part... |
not necessarily paying too much attention .. but when asked i'm sure it's not too hard to remember
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| Stilez |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mag1k
Does anyone know where I can find a hot eskimo.......... i want an eskimo. |
Since sensitivity seems to be the theme with this thread... I would refer to "ESKIMO" by their proper and more politically correct name.. Inuit. As we all know...Eskimo means eater's of raw meat... and they have since come along way from when people used to call them that.
That is all. :happy2: |
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| zoogla |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
That was my point from the beginning, though. Some people may try to spin this as being a thread about racial/cultural acceptance, but it is really a thread about racial/cultural divisions. If someone is able to instantly rhyme off all the various ethnicities of their current or ex-relationships then it shows they're paying way too much attention to that part... |
Wow, Digi, I have to say that I really admire your analysis. You should be a psychologist! I see your point perfectly, but I don't agree in your conclusion that this is about "divisions" and not "acceptance". I think you are just looking at the negative aspect of the issue and not the positive.
However, I agree that if I had given more thought to how this thread would be received (and in keeping with my principles in not causing any harm) I could have taken out the "list" part and just left it at who I'm with currently. That would have gotten my point across just fine, but the list part was just for fun because of a combination of a few other threads that I recently read (techead's Russian Girls and RJ's obsession with lists! :p)
Anyway as my buddy loco said:
| quote: | Originally posted by loconet
wow, this is still going? Where is the love on this thread?? :p
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ON WITH THE LOVE, PEEPS!!! :p
P.S. Loco and Loca will have beautiful children ;) |
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| milos |
| why is there hearts in the background of this thread :nervous: |
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