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Gareth Emery: 95% of Trance is Cheesy Bollocks (pg. 12)
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| bouncebackability gives him some credibility in this argument but I dont know how much of that was Jon O'bir and how much of it was him... |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by darudevil
, then I guess I have to admit to myself that I'll never be a big dj because I can't memorize 100+ new tracks' good spots every month and I have to use notes. Oh well. I hope I still get gigs.;) |
Don't worry, alot of really DJ's get loads of gigs. :gsmile: |
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis86
Don't worry, alot of really DJ's get loads of gigs. :gsmile: |
*Yawn*
Play a new record for once mate, you are starting to get boring. |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RickyM
*Yawn*
Play a new record for once mate, you are starting to get boring. |
Burning a CD with some new tracks right now. And no I'm not writing down the "good spots" or the keys or the bpm. |
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| isoterra |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis86
or the keys |
pft noob. harmonic mixing ftw ;) |
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| Floorfiller |
| i'd just like to say that harmonic mixing crap tracks doesn't make your set sound any better... |
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| isoterra |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
i'd just like to say that harmonic mixing crap tracks doesn't make your set sound any better... |
haha, true. it's one thing that needs to be used with caution, i think... having perfect harmonic matches EVERY time can make a set sound dull but i still think using it wisely can enhance a set greatly |
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| DJMaytag |
I don't mean for this to turn into a flame Darude fest like some may have directed this into, I just want to put my perspective to this part of the thread before I respond to a few things to get back on topic...
| quote: | Originally posted by darudevil
Other (cd/laptop/vinyl) djs never sort their records before a gig? They never listen to the track and memorize the best mix in/out spots before spinning it out the first time? |
I spin a 4.5 hour set every Saturday night at a club where I reside, and I'm often asked what I'm going to play tonight, to which I always have to reply, "I don't know, I'll find out when I start spinning". I have my records sorted by tempo (which in my bag + box ranges from 125 to 140 bpm) and a small section in the back of the bag which is where I put my breaks tunes (completely unsorted). That's about the extent of the organization I do (sure every couple weeks I grab a few out of the gig collection and throw in all new choons of the week plus a handful of classics and/or recent older tunes from the past 5 years that I think I MIGHT play in the next few weeks).
Personally I find it hard to believe that there is a "best" spot for mixing in and out of any given track, since there are so many variables (ie intro/outro length) with what track comes before and/or after that I don't even really bother with knowing the "perfect" spot... I just know or can feel out where to drop the next track in make it sound tight to keep the flow going or when to create some separation when I need to come down a touch before raising the energy level back up again.
Back to "I don't know, I'll find out when I start spinning", I usually start out with a group of 5 or 6 tracks I'd like to play as my first track before I get to the club, and I judge which one to play based on the feel of the early crowd (often times picking something other than those 5 or 6!). From there I just program on the fly, judging which feel or vibe is needed, grabbing tracks that fit the bill). Based on the reaction from the (finicky) barstaff, club patrons and club ownership, I do a pretty damn good job of it (their words, not mine... not tryin to be cocky here).
| quote: | Originally posted by darudevil
, then I guess I have to admit to myself that I'll never be a big dj because I can't memorize 100+ new tracks' good spots every month and I have to use notes. Oh well. I hope I still get gigs.;) |
While I don't get that many tracks a month, I do get quite a few (40 on average these days), but I still am able to feel these things intuitively without much more than needle dropping a new tune in a few spots to listen to it. Some may have that natural feel to new music, some may not... those that don't may just need to do whatever it takes to compensate. It would be easy for me to criticise because I don't need to take notes (not even for CDR's), but I say whatever works for you is the best way for you to DJ.
Some of my best sets have come from a box of new records that I got in the mail just HOURS before a gig or (live) demo recording. Some of my WORST sets have come from trying to think too much or force certain tracks into a set.
For an example, here's a recording of my set from New Years Eve, programmed 100% on the fly, with a ton of new tunes that arrived in the nick of time for the night that I had little time to listen to beforehand: DJMaytag Live @ Venus De Milo NYE 2005 |
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| Joca |
Maytag is a stud, he gets 40+ new tunes a week delivered to him!
Darude/Ville
You continue to make the same point over and over again but you seem to overuse the quatation mark a little too much in your posts. Have fun playing your planned sets!! Way to raise the bar for DJ's and crowds around the globe!!!
PS. Did you spin or produce first? I'm guessing you started to produce first. |
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| Mike_Foyle |
what is wrong with you lot? there is a difference between planning a set and being prepared. djs like ville get paid alot of money. it would be insulting if they didnt prepare themselves and just got up and played whatever. when you get sent as many tracks as some of these djs get sent you will not be able to remember them all, i think making notes is a very sensible way of remembering the good points in certain tunes.. i also think that those of you who are critisising this are just half arsed and lazy.
i dont plan my sets but when i go to a gig ive got a pretty good idea of certain tracks i want to play, and roughly what kind of progression i want to achieve. there is a certain amount of preparation you can do without even seeing the crowd, if you know where and when you are playing then of course you are guna have some idea what you are playing.
if you dont like a certain dj then dont go see they play, its as simple as that. |
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| Nayil |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJMaytag
I don't mean for this to turn into a flame Darude fest like some may have directed this into, I just want to put my perspective to this part of the thread before I respond to a few things to get back on topic...
I spin a 4.5 hour set every Saturday night at a club where I reside, and I'm often asked what I'm going to play tonight, to which I always have to reply, "I don't know, I'll find out when I start spinning". I have my records sorted by tempo (which in my bag + box ranges from 125 to 140 bpm) and a small section in the back of the bag which is where I put my breaks tunes (completely unsorted). That's about the extent of the organization I do (sure every couple weeks I grab a few out of the gig collection and throw in all new choons of the week plus a handful of classics and/or recent older tunes from the past 5 years that I think I MIGHT play in the next few weeks).
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Thats why ive never heard of you.... |
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| Nayil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joca
Maytag is a stud, he gets 40+ new tunes a week delivered to him!
Darude/Ville
You continue to make the same point over and over again but you seem to overuse the quatation mark a little too much in your posts. Have fun playing your planned sets!! Way to raise the bar for DJ's and crowds around the globe!!!
PS. Did you spin or produce first? I'm guessing you started to produce first. |
Thats his way.... and if hes getting gigs that way aswell as fans who are enjoying his choons....
ur post is worthless. |
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