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Official 2006-2007 NBA Season Thread (pg. 67)
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inconspicuous
I definitely think he has the skills to be up there with Jordan...but that's almost impossible to live up to, and he hasn't even won a championship yet--let alone going 3 in a row twice. Last night was the only such one he's had in his career, also. Yes, it's a huge deal, but Jordan dropped 40+ so many times in huge games, it almost became commonplace.
LeopoldStotch
i am not ready to mark lebron in the top 5 nba players yet. he still has some room for improvement, such as his defense, his ability to make the shot while being fouled(jordan was known for always doing this. getting the "and 1" all the time), getting to the line more(he's really improved on this the past 2 years. the years before that, he was getting to the line 6 to 8 times a game. now it's 9 to 11), and his free throw percentage(his career is hovering in the lower 70s. jordan's career is in the lower 80s, and in his prime was in the mid 80s). if lebron can up his % to the upper 70s to lower 80s, that's acceptable.
Shook1
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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
i am not ready to mark lebron in the top 5 nba players yet. he still has some room for improvement, such as his defense, his ability to make the shot while being fouled(jordan was known for always doing this. getting the "and 1" all the time), getting to the line more(he's really improved on this the past 2 years. the years before that, he was getting to the line 6 to 8 times a game. now it's 9 to 11), and his free throw percentage(his career is hovering in the lower 70s. jordan's career is in the lower 80s, and in his prime was in the mid 80s). if lebron can up his % to the upper 70s to lower 80s, that's acceptable.


Everyone def. has a right to their own opinion, but as 'King Ecnal' put it best a page back: Its the ing CAVS!!!!!!!!!

Before Lebron was on the team they were nobodys. Couldnt advance to the playoffs and didnt have anyone else worth mentioning. They actually still dont have anyone else worth mentioning and they're 1 game away from the NBA Finals!!!! I find that pretty remarkable for a 3rd year player to take an entire team and go this far in this short of time.
inconspicuous
quote:
Originally posted by Shook1
Everyone def. has a right to their own opinion, but as 'King Ecnal' put it best a page back: Its the ing CAVS!!!!!!!!!

Before Lebron was on the team they were nobodys. Couldnt advance to the playoffs and didnt have anyone else worth mentioning. They actually still dont have anyone else worth mentioning and they're 1 game away from the NBA Finals!!!! I find that pretty remarkable for a 3rd year player to take an entire team and go this far in this short of time.


no one's saying it isn't--but Jordan was beyond remarkable--not pretty remarkable.
King Ecnal
quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
i am not ready to mark lebron in the top 5 nba players yet.


i'm curious buttahs... you mean top 5 all-time... or top 5 current nba players... if so, who are your top 5 current?
inconspicuous
quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
i'm curious buttahs... you mean top 5 all-time... or top 5 current nba players... if so, who are your top 5 current?


I'd go:

1. Steve Nash
2. Jason Kidd
3. Kobe
4. Lebron
5. Dirk
Kapedan
quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
I'd go:

1. Steve Nash
2. Jason Kidd
3. Kobe
4. Lebron
5. Dirk


For me:

Duncan
Nash
Kobe
Wade
Shaq
inconspicuous
quote:
Originally posted by Kapedan
Shaq


no wai

also, Wade might be ahead of dirk...that's a close one.
Porky
quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
WTF... BILL WENNINGTON...... LUC LONGLEY!!!



zydrunas ilgauskas... even though he's balding and oogily, is way better than either of the above imposters!
Porky
quote:
Originally posted by Kapedan
For me:

Duncan
Nash
Kobe
Wade
Shaq





Duncan
DirkDiggler
Lebron
Kobe
Nash

Porky
quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
i'm curious buttahs... you mean top 5 all-time... or top 5 current nba players... if so, who are your top 5 current?


he meant top5 of alltime

lebron definitely belongs in the top5 current
Member of X
1. Kobe
2. Lebron
3. Duncan
4. Nash
5. Wade
6. Dirk (this years playoffs left a sour taste in my mouth)

Kobe is a better defensive player although he used to be better. And Lebron coasted for half the season. Kobe never coasts. I think Lebron can be better than Kobe soon though if he continues the brilliance he showed last night. Duncan is the best winner but I wouldn't put him ahead of the other two in terms of talent/skills. It's just that dominant big men can control a game during the playoffs much easier than wing guys. Unless you're Lebron going bananas. The upper tier is reserved for the Michael Jordan's of the world and it's a small list. But think of how many championships besides Michael were won without a dominant big man? Shaq check. Hakeem check. Duncan check. Jabbar check.

And everyone knows how much I hate Kobe. I don't let personal feelings get in the way of the brain.
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