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Russia vs. Georgia (pg. 10)
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| chimera66 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
I'm flying going to Georgia to fight those rusky commies. |
you make no sense |
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| whiskers |
the US, last reports say Georgia maps have "US-sponsored" stickers on them |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by know you
I'm not saying that they will actually back the US, but more that they wont veto on the security council and new resolutions regarding Iran in exchange for Georgia. Then when the US attacks Iran they can sit there and say the same thing the US has been saying about them attacking Georgia. :)
Oh... apparently Georgia told its forces to ceasefire... lets see if the Russians agree to talk or they just roll over!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7552659.stm |
Why are repeatedly mentioning the USA in relation to a war in Eastern Europe? |
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| know you |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
Why do you are repeatedly mentioning the USA in relation to a war in Eastern Europe? |
Because the US has been a major sponsor of Georgia, pushing very hard for a NATO seat this year and backing the Georgian government.
It's very easy to see the relationship between the Russian actions there and the current diplomatic relationship between the US and Russia.
Russia said to the US earlier this year when Kosovo declared and received independence that it would have grave consequences and declare a "dangerous precedence" for other break away movements.
If you think this war is solely about Georgia you need to step back and take a look at how the world works... This is very much, as some media organizations and commentators have put it, the first test of the post-cold-war world power balance. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by whiskers
the US, last reports say Georgia maps have "US-sponsored" stickers on them |
+1
This is a war between Russia and the US. |
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| diggerz |
Politics goes in PD forum.
"Know You" take a chill pill buddy. |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by know you
Because the US has been a major sponsor of Georgia, pushing very hard for a NATO seat this year and backing the Georgian government.
It's very easy to see the relationship between the Russian actions there and the current diplomatic relationship between the US and Russia.
Russia said to the US earlier this year when Kosovo declared and received independence that it would have grave consequences and declare a "dangerous precedence" for other break away movements.
If you think this war is solely about Georgia you need to step back and take a look at how the world works... This is very much, as some media organizations and commentators have put it, the first test of the post-cold-war world power balance. |
Point well made, however:
The US sponsors any number of countries in the world, just as the other wealthy nations do. Every country has their "not-so-secret" alliances, like the USA and Israel.
Financially backing someone else doesn't give a country the right to go sticking their nose in anywhere in the world, unless there is reasonable evidence to suggest a worldwide threat and/or repercussions from the conflict, or that the country being attacked is essentially helpless, which seems to be the case with Georgia.
However, NATO was formed specifically to deal with conflicts such as this, and the US should act through this outlet, rather than trying to play the big kid in the playground again.
I find you comment on "post-cold war power balance" amusing. Russia is a shattered husk barely able to support it's own citizens, and you still think it possible that they could put up any kind of fight against the US, who have the most technologically advanced army and have arguably led the world with economy and influence for the past decade?
It's also amusing that you talk about a cold war power balance, because this isn't about Russia vs America, it's Russia vs Georgia, even if Georgia has the support of the US. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by chimera66
you make no sense |
I try not to. |
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| diggerz |
Yeah, cuz wars start and end on TA
Gee, we have the entire Animal Farm in this joint, if you know what I mean... |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| one of the ghost recon missions was set in tblisi. |
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| know you |
| quote: | Originally posted by diggerz
Politics goes in PD forum.
"Know You" take a chill pill buddy. |
lol sod off, only twats go in PDD. If you want to run into a brick wall then you take stuff to PDD as that is all it has ever been.
Beat Blog, economic prowess doesn't mean a whole lot when you have a over half-million strong military and 16,000 nuclear weapons. Russia is still very much a force to be reckoned with and thinking otherwise would be foolish, and if a nation-state were to take the same attitude, like Georgia has done these last few days, it would be suicidal.
I never implied that the US would act on its own in this situation. The US is stretched far too thin to be of any effective use in Georgia and it would most likely as you suggest work through NATO if there came to be any sort of military intervention.
This whole argument is moot anyways because Georgia has been calling for international support and so far no one is touching them.
Now someone post moar of Kerri Walshe's hot bikini clad ass! :eyespop: |
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