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Russia vs. Georgia (pg. 19)
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| Agent0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
I'm sorry but, had Georgia not sent troops in, would Russia have done anything at all?
Yes it is a part of Georgia (Or was :p) but if knowing that a huge military power like Russia would react if you did send your troops there (even though it's part of your country) why do it in the first place? Whatever the circumstances, it was provocative on the part of the part of the Georgians. |
mutherfker. you still didnt get it in your little russian ing head huh?
look at this picture
do you see anything wrong with this picture? i do, its a normal ng ossetian joes with AK47 in their hands on a mothering georgian teritory. lets say ukrainian came in to russia with guns and started shooting up the place, what the would you do, would you say hey whatever let him be he's probably only gonna kill couple of people before he runs out of bullets, no biggie. or would you call police saying some ****** is trying to kill me
maybe we should of let them ing kill eachother, then you would be complaining that georgia didnt stop the north and south ossetian slaughter, im pretty sure russians would of said "hey its not our country they are fighting on so it"
i bet non of you ever heard about this,not long like 4-5 months ago, when people, georgian citizens that lived in abkhazia (georgian territory) which is occupied by russians right now, tried to cross the abkhazian border in order for them to vote for mikheil saakashvili during election, they were shot at by russian soldiers who you call "peacekeepers" just because they wanted to vote for georgias good sake. they blew up the bus full of people just like that. ill try to find a source, it was televized by georgian tv |
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| denys envy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Agent0
it was televized by georgian tv |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Agent0
mutherfker. you still didnt get it in your little russian ing head huh?
look at this picture
do you see anything wrong with this picture? i do, its a normal ng ossetian joes with AK47 in their hands on a mothering georgian teritory. lets say ukrainian came in to russia with guns and started shooting up the place, what the would you do, would you say hey whatever let him be he's probably only gonna kill couple of people before he runs out of bullets, no biggie. or would you call police saying some ****** is trying to kill me
maybe we should of let them ing kill eachother, then you would be complaining that georgia didnt stop the north and south ossetian slaughter, im pretty sure russians would of said "hey its not our country they are fighting on so it"
i bet non of you ever heard about this,not long like 4-5 months ago, when people, georgian citizens that lived in abkhazia (georgian territory) which is occupied by russians right now, tried to cross the abkhazian border in order for them to vote for mikheil saakashvili during election, they were shot at by russian soldiers who you call "peacekeepers" just because they wanted to vote for georgias good sake. they blew up the bus full of people just like that. ill try to find a source, it was televized by georgian tv |
While I think Russia overstepped their bounds, I also see people reacting in the way you are, just as bad. Being a ing idiot about it, instead of doing other things to quell or eliminate the tension, is just plain right idiocy. Palestine and Chechnya are both places with exactly the same approach. They just think violence is the answer, when it just causes more problems in this day and age. This is not 1550 when we only had canons, single shot muskets, and swords. Violence begets violence, which therefore makes it worse. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't South Ossetia officially part of Georgia? Georgia can move their army however the hell they want inside their borders.
I don't see Indonesia attacking whenever we move more units into the Northern Territory. |
Yes, but there was a peacekeeping operation in South Ossetia, which stabilized the region, so that a deal could be worked out. South Ossetia is technically Georgian, but that's not how they operate. I don't think it in Georgia's interest to try to conquer South Ossetia. |
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| timmyboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Agent0
mutherfker. you still didnt get it in your little russian ing head huh?
look at this picture
do you see anything wrong with this picture? i do, its a normal ng ossetian joes with AK47 in their hands on a mothering georgian teritory. lets say ukrainian came in to russia with guns and started shooting up the place, what the would you do, would you say hey whatever let him be he's probably only gonna kill couple of people before he runs out of bullets, no biggie. or would you call police saying some ****** is trying to kill me
maybe we should of let them ing kill eachother, then you would be complaining that georgia didnt stop the north and south ossetian slaughter, im pretty sure russians would of said "hey its not our country they are fighting on so it"
i bet non of you ever heard about this,not long like 4-5 months ago, when people, georgian citizens that lived in abkhazia (georgian territory) which is occupied by russians right now, tried to cross the abkhazian border in order for them to vote for mikheil saakashvili during election, they were shot at by russian soldiers who you call "peacekeepers" just because they wanted to vote for georgias good sake. they blew up the bus full of people just like that. ill try to find a source, it was televized by georgian tv |
first of all "as seen on georgian tv", what do you expect other than propaganda?
i am not defending the russians, who i think took it a bit too far but, wtf were the georgian government thinking?
letting go of the fact that georgia agreed to a ceasefire hours before attacking and destroying an entire city (which by the way is genocide). but ignoring that... they shot down two russian planes, unprovoked i might add. that is an act of aggression.
what boggles my mind is what the hell did they expect to happen? nato to come to their help? georgian president should have really used his head before ordering something like this suicide mission |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Yes, but there was a peacekeeping operation in South Ossetia, which stabilized the region, so that a deal could be worked out. South Ossetia is technically Georgian, but that's not how they operate. I don't think it in Georgia's interest to try to conquer South Ossetia. |
Not if they want peace. |
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| denys envy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
Yes, but there was a peacekeeping operation in South Ossetia, which stabilized the region, so that a deal could be worked out. South Ossetia is technically Georgian, but that's not how they operate. I don't think it in Georgia's interest to try to conquer South Ossetia. |
Depends on who you ask, of course, but South Ossetia's been independent since 1992... |
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| bananas |
| Guys just look at how russia's troops were moving, they were prepared for this. No way they could come up with a plan over night, when they found out that Georgia's troops stepped into s.ossetia |
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| timmyboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by bananas
Guys just look at how russia's troops were moving, they were prepared for this. No way they could come up with a plan over night, when they found out that Georgia's troops stepped into s.ossetia |
true... but the same argument can be made for military preparedness at the border... all good militaries should be prepared for an assault.
mind you i am not saying anything is clear cut there... with both countries at fault. i just think the georgian president made one horrible decision after another and the people ended up paying for it. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| I love how we have so many experts on politics in the North Caucasus all of a sudden. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I love how we have so many experts on politics in the North Caucasus all of a sudden. |
lol yeah isn't that how it always is? |
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| kadomony |
| quote: | Originally posted by know you
 | ARMED FORCES COMPARED GEORGIA Total personnel: 26,900 Main battle tanks (T-72): 82 Armoured personnel carriers: 139 Combat aircraft (Su-25): Seven Heavy artillery pieces (including Grad rocket launchers): 95 RUSSIA Total personnel: 641,000 Main battle tanks (various): 6,717 Armoured personnel carriers: 6,388 Combat aircraft (various): 1,206 Heavy artillery pieces (various): 7,550 Source: Jane's Sentinel Country Risk Assessments |
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like that matters :rolleyes:
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