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Trance-MB
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
not at all. maybe ty overproduced mid-90s tracks?


Just a matter of taste. Your's is far different from mine.

I would post something like "The Age Of Love (Jam & Spoon mix)" as example for mid '90 trance I like.

Actually I think you are not talking about the part and sound I was refering to, the breakdown @1:14.

What do you think is a ty overproduced mid-90's track then?
EddieZilker
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
not at all. maybe ty overproduced mid-90s tracks?

this is 1995:


hypnotic, driving, and ecstatic at the same time, subtle and ambient (atmospheric, immersive) in the approach.

as 808 state put it, 'the extended pleasure of dance'


I like this track. I remember hearing tracks like it back in '94-95 and thinking that it was really a move forward in complexity compared to a lot of tunes that were coming out then. It was a huge departure from a club I worked at in '93. The DJ, there, insisted that crowds only liked things that were predictable. The bar staff pretty much had his set memorized. Then I heard music like that tune you just cited.

Cool stuff! Very experimental and it wasn't chasing the crowd off the dance floor. I sat in a corner, stone-cold-sober and train-spotting. Awesome. I couldn't predict what was coming next but everything that did, I liked.

Thanks for the flash-back, Vanna!
creon444
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Originally posted by PETRAN
The only ridiculous post is yours lol!


Dude! It's spelled "redicoulouse"! :mad:
creon444




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PETRAN
quote:
Originally posted by creon444




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nefardec
quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
That track was actually very mid-end 90s Paul Van Dykish/LSG-influenced track. Like a copy or something.Its ok lol. Hey don't bash "overproduction" i love it. M83 and all that shoegaze stuff are based on overproduction :toocool: (if such a concept actually exists because it is very relative)


that was the first thing i thought of when i heard it, Paul van Dyk.

by overproduction I meant lots of glitzy special effects wooshes, crashes, etc

in terms of a 'wall of sound' i really have no issues with that, it can be beautiful!
Noisician
chin chin!
Barachem
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec by overproduction I meant lots of glitzy special effects wooshes, crashes, etc


No probs with glitzy effects, but they have to fit in.
They do help in filling out a track which is empty.

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec in terms of a 'wall of sound' i really have no issues with that, it can be beautiful!


I have a track that drenches in a wall of sound.

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB My conclusion is that Stoneface & Terminal-Blueprint played at ASOT 368 is a brilliant track which remembers me of mid 90's tracks. (@1:14 is the sound I mean and I really like)
And believe it or not, it even doesn't have vocals.

People should focus on the tracks they like and not the ones they don't. Same for listening ASOT.

Thank you Armin for playing it, Thank you Stoneface & Terminal for producing it.



This mid-90's?
No way, it's too slick and polished for that and it does not have the feel.
I don't like it much.

Firefly from Mike Foyle is more like mid-90's trance in my opinion.
It's much more hypnotic, driving, ecstatic than Blueprint



quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
not at all. maybe ty overproduced mid-90s tracks?

this is 1995:


hypnotic, driving, and ecstatic at the same time, subtle and ambient (atmospheric, immersive) in the approach.

as 808 state put it, 'the extended pleasure of dance'


The first few ambient minutes were like GREAT!
The 4/4 part i liked less, a tad too repetitive, but still quite good.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Don't think there will be a real conclusion on this subject.


I agree.
Trance-MB
quote:
Originally posted by Barachem
This mid-90's?
No way, it's too slick and polished for that and it does not have the feel.
I don't like it much.


No, I said some sounds in it and therefor this track remembers me of mid 90's trance and then I mean the part (without any beat), breakdown at 1 minute and 14 seconds.

It's rhythm and overall sound is very current like most ASOT stuff. I really start to think I listen or hear tracks differently then others. If a track as an ASOT stuff like sound in it its crap regardless of what's more in the background. That's just a feeling I get.

I even wonder whether it is the rhythm, beat which makes people don't like ASOT stuff. Probably the same reason why I don't like most minimal, ambient and e.g. Sven Vaith and Apex Twin tracks.
nefardec
quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
I even wonder whether it is the LACK OF rhythm, beat which makes people don't like ASOT stuff.



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Trance-MB
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
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Not a good fix IMO, you should have added more to that.
MrJiveBoJingles
Modern mainstream trance has a poor sense of rhythm because it's made for home listening and stationary fist-pumping, not dancing.
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