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Capitalizt
Tipping based on percentage is ridiculous if you ask me. If I meet someone for breakfast at a cheap restaurant and the bill is $15 but the service was EXCELLENT..waiter getting everything right, being polite, providing plenty of refills, etc I have no problem leaving a $6-7 tip for him which is 40 or 50%. The same goes in reverse when eating at an expensive restaurant. Dinner at the local steakhouse might be $65 for two people..but if we have utter service with few visits from the waiter, limited refills, food prepared incorrectly etc..that bastard gets a $1.00 tip (if he's lucky) and nothing more. Eating at an expensive restaurant you should expect good service. If the service is crap, why even give 5-10%? You are rewarding bad service MORE than you would reward a superb waiter/waitress at a cheaper restaurant.. It makes no sense at all.
Lira
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Originally posted by Adam420
Legally we are obliged to tip at least 15%

I thought Australians/Kiwis didn't tip. At all :conf:
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by Lira
I thought Australians/Kiwis didn't tip. At all :conf:


We don't. Adam is in Canada though (and Canadian, I think?).
Adam420
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
We don't. Adam is in Canada though (and Canadian, I think?).


Sushi's right, we don't:p

nah. I am in Canada, and we tip here. And Sushi, I am as much Canadian as I am Australian, and you should be proud to know that we both hold the same citizenship:D

But I do know for a fact that tips are not mandatory in Australia. I keep remembering every time I go there.
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by Adam420
Sushi's right, we don't:p

nah. I am in Canada, and we tip here. And Sushi, I am as much Canadian as I am Australian, and you should be proud to know that we both hold the same citizenship:D

But I do know for a fact that tips are not mandatory in Australia. I keep remembering every time I go there.


Oh cool, I wasn't sure if you had a partially Australian background, or if you just spent some time over here :)
Slylee
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Originally posted by Capitalizt
Tipping based on percentage is ridiculous if you ask me. If I meet someone for breakfast at a cheap restaurant and the bill is $15 but the service was EXCELLENT..waiter getting everything right, being polite, providing plenty of refills, etc I have no problem leaving a $6-7 tip for him which is 40 or 50%. The same goes in reverse when eating at an expensive restaurant. Dinner at the local steakhouse might be $65 for two people..but if we have utter service with few visits from the waiter, limited refills, food prepared incorrectly etc..that bastard gets a $1.00 tip (if he's lucky) and nothing more. Eating at an expensive restaurant you should expect good service. If the service is crap, why even give 5-10%? You are rewarding bad service MORE than you would reward a superb waiter/waitress at a cheaper restaurant.. It makes no sense at all.


yea i do the same re: breakfast/lunch. sorry i should have been more clear. i tip 20% or more no matter what time of the day it is. and yea if service/food is disgusting they'll get a couple bucks.
malek
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Originally posted by Adam420
Legally we are obliged to tip at least 15%...and I'm a poor mother******, so 15%:p


its not a law, because if it were, you would see it on the bill.

I always make sure to leave at least 15%.
pkcRAISTLIN
tipping. Its not my job to subsidise the staffing costs of business.
Lira
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
tipping. Its not my job to subsidise the staffing costs of business.

I agree with you - it's weird how "a bonus" suddenly became an obligation in certain jurisdictions. We're required by law to tip 10% where I live, and I think it's immoral: If that's part of their expenses, it should be included in the price (I don't need to pay an extra 5% for their silverware, for example, so why should the waiter's salary be added in the end?).

If the waiter turns out to be an incompetent, and his wage becomes "an extra", it's easier to punish him, so to speak. but that's not a good argument, to begin with - the establishment is responsible for the behaviour of the staff.
Domesticated
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
We don't. Adam is in Canada though (and Canadian, I think?).


Speak for yourself. I tip at a majority of places I go, provided the service has been adequate. Not really at bars where I've ordered a single drink, but for meals I will definitely leave something.

Sushipunk
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Originally posted by Domesticated
Speak for yourself. I tip at a majority of places I go, provided the service has been adequate. Not really at bars where I've ordered a single drink, but for meals I will definitely leave something.


I should have been more specific. All I meant was, that it's not mandatory or even expected to leave a tip here. I tip too, if the food or service was exceptional. But I certainly wouldn't feel guilty not leaving a tip. Ever.
malek
Over here, waiters minimum wage is lower than the regular minimum wage, because it's expected that people leave a tip.

If you don't leave a tip even when receiving a good service then the waiter is getting the shaft big time.
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