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2010.06.25-2010.06.26 [LA] INSOMNIAC : Electric Daisy Carnival (pg. 61)
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| DaveT |
In all honestly, it's just way easier to get all those DJs to do events like that in Europe. In the US, there's so much politics involved it's very, very hard...plus most of the DJs live over there. Easy travel for them. Ultra is probably the only one who can do something like it in the US if they really went after it, and it's because all those DJs would be in Miami anyway. :p
And prices are business. If someone did events to compete with the other ones and did nearly as good of a production at more sane prices, then the higher prices would stop. Unless bidding wars just started and then the higher ticket prices would mean more money to work with in bidding. |
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| Artois |
| Still i can name a huge list of australlian/south american/north american artists to add ;) and everyone should know politics are all bull |
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| DaveT |
Politics are bull but it's very much there when it comes to bookings in the US. Dealing with agencies, what they want, where they want the DJ listed, how they wanted list, what timeslot, etc. You see a lot more crap going on with that here in the US.
Look at this event. Sasha is on the mainstage, but Digweed is on a side stage (though it's kinda his own stage, too). I don't know of an event in the US could book them both and noth have them together or at least on the same main stage.
DJs or labels (a big DJs label) often have their own stages and whatnot over there and have their own lineups. When the hell is a US massive gonna have some Armada stage or something!? :)
Ferry had his thing at Nocturnal...but nothign compared to the stage he has for his label over in Europe at some shows. |
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| in2muzikk |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
Cost of this one? One Day Pass if 40 Euros. Weekedn pass for 75 Euros.
And the production will prob destroy anything done in the US.
But this is life with massives here. Not like Insomniac is alone. Everyone organizer is the same way!
BTW, it says Sander van Doorn B2B Marco V?Is that like another way of saying tag-team? Not sure. If so, :eyespop:
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Damn, when will the 2 hour LA-London bullet train finally become reality? :whip: |
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| Cool1g |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
Look at this event. Sasha is on the mainstage, but Digweed is on a side stage (though it's kinda his own stage, too). I don't know of an event in the US could book them both and noth have them together or at least on the same main stage.
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i've never in my entire life (including festivals in europe) once seen Sasha and Digweed on the same bill but not playing together or billed as S&D.... don't know what to think about that one... |
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| Artois |
| Yeah i would really like labels to throw stages. A Get Physical or Minus stage would own at an event. An how about an Unreleased Digital Stage or bookings ;) Dinka, Daniel Portman, EDX, come on. |
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| Cool1g |
| i just noticed Steve Aoki is on the mainstage on Sunday??? :conf: :conf: :conf: |
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| Artois |
| LOL Bloody Beetroots did the mainstage at dance valley last year too but the other stages are all huge so it doesnt matter |
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| Cool1g |
DaveT - this event is not comparable to EDC or Global Gathering in terms of productions or running hours... it is only from 1pm-9pm on Saturday and Sunday... and their production is nothing like the huge massives, either in Europe or EDC/Ultra. Granted the talent is better than EDC but again you already noted why that is in your prior posts...
Hence the 'cheap' fee of $60 to get in for SW4...
a more appropriate comparison to EDC would be say Global Gathering which is $180 per ticket or $150 for Creamfields... |
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| darthseph |
After the last few pages... man I cannot believe the hostility that's brewing in this thread.
Some things to think about:
1) For venues and most promoters, the bottom line is about pulling the biggest art of the crowd they can. It also is about making as much money as they can. What most people forget is that International DJs cost a boat load of money to get out here, and at massives they are going to ask for more money, because of the amount of people in attendance.
2) Why so much electro? It's because that's what is filling clubs these days. I would kill to see a true trance massive like those back in the 90's before I ever got the chance to go. This year, EDC is making headway with the Gareth, Simon, Sean, Armin, A&B lineup. So I am happy to see that. That being said, I'm a fan of the Laidback Luke/Chuckie/Afrojack/SHM sound too, so I'm even more happy to see them being pulled out. I have yet to see them act together at one event, and I think the energy will be awesome from it.
3) Do I think the event is expensive? Oh yes, believe me I do. I will still go though because I want to hear the artists they have booked and all in all, its cheaper then having to string together night after night of clubs trying to see each one of the artists I'm interested in.
4)I'd love to see even more variety at an event like this, and hopefully with the growing success of EDC we will see Insomniac get the opportunity to use the whole block/park like the old Innercity parties in Amsterdam ID&T used to throw. That way we can get the variety we are all seeking. I'd love to see an Umek, Von Stroke, Gartner, and Vath stage... but hey... they already have Claud and Gartner so that's cool too.
5) Could they bring in some new talent? Sure, I'd love to see some more of the High Contrast Recordings producers at the event. is it going to happen yet, probably not, but I keep rooting to hear my favorites at a massive or at a club.
I still haven't gotten my ticket because I'm trying to figure out if i can afford 2 days in LA with a 2 day ticket... we'll see what happens. All my plans though are to go both days. I for one am excited to see so many great DJs. |
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| Brian Scott |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
Cost of this one? One Day Pass if 40 Euros. Weekedn pass for 75 Euros.
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You guys are missing the obvious, which directly relates to the topic at hand. Notice that each of the 8 stages (4 each day) has a DIFFERENT GENRE. 8 types of music are represented here, making everybody happy.
Insomniac, please follow their lead! |
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| Artois |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cool1g
DaveT - this event is not comparable to EDC or Global Gathering in terms of productions or running hours |
I say give me less lights and the amount of time that it runs into the night is irrelevant, better music kills all those factors.
also EDC cannot compare to Global Gathering or any event of that magnitude and to make them think they are comparable at this point is ridiculous |
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