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Is school REALLY that important or useful? (pg. 9)
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
One of the things I've noticed about conspiracy theorists is that they have a rudimentary grasp of the disparity between what we're told and the truth of how the government/society operates, but because they're never read any Marxism, Foucault, revisionist history etc they don't really know how works. So they invent these fanciful conspiracies as a more interesting stopgag between complacency and reality. |
That up-there, right-pretty wording still don't explain the correlections between the falicissified moon-landing, MLK and JFK assassinations and how Robert MacNamerra secured perestroika, years ahead of when the Soviet Union fell in a secret meeting with Kissenger, Nixon, and Kruschev with secret documents from USAF's Project Bluebook - and that's what STARTED the war on drugs - cause one way or another we will be subjected to one world order under our Alien Overlords.
Explain that, Fancy Pants! |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
you alt. |
You talkin' to me? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
One of the things I've noticed about conspiracy theorists is that they have a rudimentary grasp of the disparity between what we're told and the truth of how the government/society operates, but because they're never read any Marxism, Foucault, revisionist history etc they don't really know how works. So they invent these fanciful conspiracies as a more interesting stopgag between complacency and reality. |
Yeah, its interesting. You’d think that such writers would be their bread and butter, but because they’re not sexy/outlandish enough, they get dismissed in favour of unknowns who spin the biggest tall tales. Such authors might even be labelled as institutionalist, I know trancer-x in particular was concerned about the coming communist One World Government. Institutionalist because you know, anyone that might get credence in a tertiary course absolutely must be part of the system, rofl! |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
alt, you . |
I can neither confirm nor deny that. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Yeah, its interesting. You’d think that such writers would be their bread and butter, but because they’re not sexy/outlandish enough, they get dismissed in favour of unknowns who spin the biggest tall tales. Such authors might even be labelled as institutionalist, I know trancer-x in particular was concerned about the coming communist One World Government. Institutionalist because you know, anyone that might get credence in a tertiary course absolutely must be part of the system, rofl! |
I'd say that's because your hardened conspiracy theorist has had to fend off so many credible sources that he/she is already in the mindset that anything published and problematic, especially what is taught in universities, is "part of the system" and thus not to be trusted.
It baffles me how many people they think are in on these global conspiracies - everyone in the media, everyone in politics, everyone in education... |
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| ziptnf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Yes it can't be bad (usually) but its more of a question of its worth. If you had the natural abilities and got in 7-8 years of experience instead of a degree you'd have 7-8 years of experience instead of debt and no experience, but a piece of paper.
Who is a prospective employer going to hire? Someone with 7-8 years of experience or someone with a degree and no experience in real work? HR might look at the person with the degree but any sane manager or developer looking at the hires would say the person with experience.
This is of course assuming we are talking about computer fields. |
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Wait, dude, I'm sorry, but this is wrong.
#1) If it takes you 8 years to get your bachelors degree, you won't get hired anyways, because you're dumb.
#2) Most people I know in my field (not just computer engineering, but all engineers) not only have a well-paying job in their field, but are almost guaranteed an equal job or better coming out of college. My program is a 5 year masters program, so you literally only have to stay 2 more semesters after getting your bachelors to waltz on out with your Masters degree. That achievement will be a hell of a lot more impressive than work on an open source game with a group of other developers. Also, it will earn me more stacks in the long run.
Edit: Don't get me wrong, Nou, there are plenty of students in my classes who are worthless and don't have a job right now. They just skip class, don't do their homework till the last minute, and skim by in their classes. Those guys will be harder to hire, simply because of lack of experience. I'm just saying I know plenty of people in my university that are going to be really well off. |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
And for the record Bas I am pretty frigging good at managing and managing other people. My project and the people that worked on it on my side was the only on-time, under-budget project in the quarter before I was fired, the other side of the project in the art department was 100% over budget and behind schedule. They fired me because I talked about the company with co-workers on my lunch break, not because I wasn't capable. :p |
That's great, but unfortunately that one example wouldn't really cut it. A big thing that you're forced to learn at a university is time/people management. Being part of a relatively small team (you said 2 or 3?) just means they're competent. Not that you're a good manager. |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
The biggest advantage of going to university is you don’t end up like kismet, trancer-x, culorut or DOOMBOT. |
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