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JohnSmith
well.. that does sound scary.

however, let's put the USAs arsenal against that. suddenly saddams don't seem so big.

specially considering the USA chemical weapons are effectively in my backyard. (Colorado)

let's put it this way. i think that bush has too many weapons. i think that for the good of society, there should be a regime change in the USA. i'm acting altruistically for the good of everyone in trying to make the world a safer place.

so, i'm thinking about declaring war on america. do you see the hypocrisy here?

you think if saddamn wanted to inspect the USA's chemical war facilities that would be allowed? no, they'd be called spies then, not inspectors.
BluNine
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wrong. each and every person working in the WTC, and pentagon, pay taxes and contribute to the war efforts with their money.

you make this sound like it is a donation, which it is most definately not. taxes are a fact of life, which give many benefits (healthcare, social security, etc), but the reciever (the government) can use the money at their own discretion. although your post/story was very accurate, you continue to attack the PEOPLE of the united states. does it look like im joining the army/navy/air force or what have you? no, because i do NOT support my government on it's middle eastern policy. can you please remove your head from your ass and comprehend this?
Az
quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
well.. that does sound scary.

however, let's put the USAs arsenal against that. suddenly saddams don't seem so big.

specially considering the USA chemical weapons are effectively in my backyard. (Colorado)

let's put it this way. i think that bush has too many weapons. i think that for the good of society, there should be a regime change in the USA. i'm acting altruistically for the good of everyone in trying to make the world a safer place.

so, i'm thinking about declaring war on america. do you see the hypocrisy here?

you think if saddamn wanted to inspect the USA's chemical war facilities that would be allowed? no, they'd be called spies then, not inspectors.

your my hero :)
tiesto14
quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
well.. that does sound scary.

however, let's put the USAs arsenal against that. suddenly saddams don't seem so big.

specially considering the USA chemical weapons are effectively in my backyard. (Colorado)

let's put it this way. i think that bush has too many weapons. i think that for the good of society, there should be a regime change in the USA. i'm acting altruistically for the good of everyone in trying to make the world a safer place.

so, i'm thinking about declaring war on america. do you see the hypocrisy here?

you think if saddamn wanted to inspect the USA's chemical war facilities that would be allowed? no, they'd be called spies then, not inspectors.


heres an idea...go live in Iraq........


Bush did not create all these weapons since he has been in office...

and why dont u guys get on the Russians...they are the ones with the MOST amount of lost nuclear war heads then any other nation on the planet.....i dont see u saying about that..why?
quddha
First off, Renegade's posts are absolutely beautiful. Mastery of the English Language, Logic and Reasoning. Really hard to argue with this man. Unfair for Tiesto14, who isn't as eloquent in expressing his opinions.

Also, I want to propose that people always look at the situation in the other person's shoes. I know its hard sometimes, but if you don't you're usually just spewing ignorance that WILL be shot down by 10 other outsiders who see your faults.

Take for example, a group of americans go in and suicide bomb an important iraqi building, killing big Iraqi military men, as well as a few innocents. Now Iraq (lets pretend they have sufficient firepower, aircraft carriers and so forth) decides to retaliate and and lace the American homeland with cruise missiles. The whole world will be up in arms. We would be condeming Iraq for their retaliation, after all, it was the fault of the small group of men, not the whole American People. Right?

Well the whole world IS up in arms, because the above situation is happening now, just switch the country names. So, there are no double standards you see? I wonder what the average Afghani would have to say about this issue. (not an Afghani interviewed for western media.) :P
BluNine
the major difference between our two arsenals is we do not use ours for illogical and malicious purposes.

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you think if saddamn wanted to inspect the USA's chemical war facilities that would be allowed? no, they'd be called spies then, not inspectors.


yes, the US is generally known as a peace-keeping nation (which yes, is sometimes bull), iraq, on the other hand, is not.

quote:
March 1988: Halabja, Iraq - Clouds of poisonous gases killed as many as 5,000 Kurds, Many were struck down where they stood, dead childred littered the street like discarded dolls. The Kurds offense: siding with neighboring Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. Saddam released a cocktail of chemicals, including mustard gas, sarin, tabun, and VX. These chemicals caused unsightly and virtually untreatable genetic changes in skin cells. Even now, in 2002, on an average day - there are no births, just miscarriages. The babies who do survive suffer birth defects and mental retardation. Dr. Christine Gosden, professor of medical genetics at the University of Liverpool: "Even the land, which was once the most fertile in the area, now looks like a nuclear wilderness."


All of this, to 5 thousand of his own people. Need i say more?

[edit: they arent random malicious purposes, i know there is reasoning behind all attacks, so please - no flames :)]
tiesto14
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Originally posted by quddha
First off, Renegade's posts are absolutely beautiful. Mastery of the English Language, Logic and Reasoning. Really hard to argue with this man. Unfair for Tiesto14, who isn't as eloquent in expressing his opinions.


LOL...i agree


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Originally posted by quddha
Take for example, a group of americans go in and suicide bomb an important iraqi building, killing big Iraqi military men, as well as a few innocents. Now Iraq (lets pretend they have sufficient firepower, aircraft carriers and so forth) decides to retaliate and and lace the American homeland with cruise missiles. The whole world will be up in arms. We would be condeming Iraq for their retaliation, after all, it was the fault of the small group of men, not the whole American People. Right? .



WRONG...because thats the difference..America would not suicide bomb anyone...those people are barbaric and insane....
tiesto14
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Originally posted by BluNine



All of this, to 5 thousand of his own people. Need i say more?



nope good work...u prooved how freaken nuts this man is and how much he needs tro be taken out...
quddha
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Originally posted by tiesto14
WRONG...because thats the difference..America would not suicide bomb anyone...those people are barbaric and insane....


Those barbaric and insane people lived in American houses, ate American Food, went to American flying schools, and Flew American Planes.

And I add that these people didn't do it in the name of Afghanistan either.
quddha
Oh, let me remind you of that stupid kid who flew his plane into an office tower. He was pretty american. :P

But doesn't have to be suicide bombing, it can be general bombing, assassination, whatever. U get the GENERAL point.

BluNine
youre absolutely correct, these people dont give a about afghanistan...i dont see any "afghani taliban members" on the most wanted list.
Az
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Originally posted by tiesto14



nope good work...u prooved how freaken nuts this man is and how much he needs tro be taken out...

yeah he does need to be taken out....but not by invading the place and making it yet another warzone...imagine if he gets away like Osama did......we need to be a little more subversive about things
on another point found this useful little quote (thanks john)
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quote taken from - Arundhati Roy, author
The American people ought to know that it is not them, but their government's policies, that are so hated.
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