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| LoCa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
You are so proud to be canadian yet you have an italian flag... go back to italy |
Exactly what i was thinking actually hehe :toothless |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
You just contradicted yourself. :stongue:
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How the fak did i contridict myself? I simply stated that IRan is worse off than it had been under the monarchy... that doesnt mean the monarchial system was heaven. In fact.. I DO KNOW the shah had one of the worst human rights violation records in history. Moron :rolleyes:
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Iran is more democratic now than under the Shah. Again, another contradiction.
You also seem to have trouble differentiating between an ABSOLUTE monarchy (like Swaziland) and a CONSTITUTIONAL monarchy (like the Netherlands). |
Stop with the childish patronization.. i fully know the difference between it. The nature of a monarchy is what makes me sick...what it stands for.. does that get through your prejudice clogged head?
And with respect to iran... if you really think that "democratic" system in Iran has given peopel a choice ther.. you need alot of brushing up to do man. IF you only knew of how many blood stained student dorms janitors had to sweep up becuase of a simple protest.. you would think otherwise.
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Actually, Canada is not a democracy. It's a constitutional monarchy that's been hijacked by the Fiberals. They rule the country like a one-party dictatorship.
We don't even have an elected Senate for God's sake! Some democracy.
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I think you need to actually go to VOTE at a BALLOT that is COUNTED in the next election.. your twisted view of reality needs some cleaning.
Canada is great with all the 10's of millions of immigrants that make it so disticnt today.. and i hope and it is actually happeneing.. that it continues to be like this. You can always go up to Nunavut where the real Canadians live. Im sure youll love it there
WATCH OUT WOLFY...THE MUSLIMS ARE INVADING THE WORLD!!!!!!!!
hahahaha.. what a goof |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
I'm not an immigrant. :rolleyes: |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
"Natives" or "First Nation" peoples are from Asia. |
Now theres a contradiction.. the Natives... who are indeginous to this land are "from asia" yet you... whose family came to canada this century on a boat are not an Immigrant? |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
so why do i feel offended everytime it is said to describe someone in this thread? |
maybe you are oversensitive? |
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| Jayx1 |
Immigrants are vital and are needed in Canada. Sadly though we bring in too many from the same group at the same time thus not allowing them to integrate. I find it hard to accept that people should be able to function solely within an ethnic community to the point that they dont even feel the need to learn the local language. This is one of the things that is wrong with immigration today. The other is the fact that we make it impossible for immigrants with degrees to use them here. We demand doctors and teachers and end up making them drive taxis when they arrive. This is not what is advertised overseas about Canada. Do you think if we said to immigrants "forget about being a doctor, come to canada and drive a taxi!" do you think they would come?
I agree with the sentiment that many immigrants need to change their attitudes when they arrive. This is Canada. Respect Canada. Respect it's traditions. Respect it's history and holidays. If you don't want to, i'll show you the door. It's quite simple. If you need a good reminder of what I am talking about, Christmas is around the corner, that is if we are even allowed to call it Christmas anymore. Meanwhile, politicians should get off their asses and fix the system so that many immigrants are not forced to use social services as they are today. We need to fix the family class policy. What this means is that only one family member need to enter with qualifying points and that opens up the door for the rest of the family that doesn't even come close to qualifying. If an immigrant doctor cant make it here how the hell is his 89 year old grandmother supposed to?
Let's make it possible for doctors and teachers from overseas to take proper equivelency courses and tests to ensure that their talents don't become wasted. Otherwise we are not being fair to these people when we promise them a "better life" in Canada. I know of a couple of people personally who are much worse off in Canada financially after being promised a better life through the independent class of immigration.
You see, these well balanced arguements are very valid however the attitude in Canada whenever someone raises any points like this is allegations of racism. This is why our coutnry is going to hell. We are so afraid to talk about immigration, welfare, healthcare, and political reform. We chastize Americans for being so hard headed and set in their ways when really we are no better ourselves. Say ANYTHING about healthcare and the need for reform and you get labelled un-canadian for example. |
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| Rodrico |
| Dont let ShadoWolf get to you, remember, hes the guy who said the Crusades were a defensive war... |
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| LoCa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodrico
Dont let ShadoWolf get to you, remember, hes the guy who said the Crusades were a defensive war... |
:haha: i had no idea he'd said that lol |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodrico
Dont let ShadoWolf get to you, remember, hes the guy who said the Crusades were a defensive war... |
When did the Muslims invade Spain and France? |
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| Superstar |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
We don't even have an elected Senate for God's sake! Some democracy.
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For a guy who hates the Liberals so much, you should really know what Mulroney did to make sure the GST bill was passed. From Wikipedia:
The GST bill was very important to then-Prime Minister Mulroney and he was determined to prevent the Senate from rejecting his party's motion. Rather than face certain defeat, he quickly began a flurry of Senate appointments, filling all vacant seats with Progressive Conservative supporters and invoking a clause in the Constitution (Secton 26 of The Constitution Act, 1867) allowing him to increase the Senate's size and appoint eight more senators than normal. In a few short weeks, Mulroney was able to create a Progressive Conservative majority in the Senate and the GST bill was easily passed.
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Now the other view on the Senate is that it has mostly been working and there's no need to change it. All that would result in elected senators is the slowing down of parliament and one house blocking the other with bills if there are 2 different parties controlling the Commons and Senate.
Just because they are appointed doesn't make it wrong. Supreme Court judges are appointed, but nobody is complaining about them. The whole point of the Senate was to ensure a check against Commons' decisions. They are there to make suggestions to bills, not to introduce new ones (at least none that involve public money).
This is the same argument as the Queen. Why is it ok to have a symbolic Queen be the official head of state, but then it's not ok to have a rubber-stamping Senate who really doesn't block many House votes? Both are really symbolic, although in theory they are entitled to exercise much more power. |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
a lot changes in a few hundred years |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
What has changed other than our willingness to coddle new immigrants into abandoning the need to become a Canadian? |
just the fact that it seemed okay for immigrants to retain their cultural and language norms then, without feeling the urgent need to learn the languages and respect of the existing culture already there
but i guess that's not okay anymore..
i hear ya man .. i can't stand double standards either
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| Jayx1 |
Funny you mention the GST. That was one of Chretiens biggest lies. "I will eliminate da GST"
Sure he will.... Oh and it cost us 100s of thousands for a by-election so that Sheila Copps could save face on the matter too. Remember she promised to resign if the GST was not axed. Yeah right! Thanks for reminding us about the GST, another in a legacy of Liberal lies. |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Superstar
For a guy who hates the Liberals so much, you should really know what Mulroney did to make sure the GST bill was passed. From Wikipedia:
The GST bill was very important to then-Prime Minister Mulroney and he was determined to prevent the Senate from rejecting his party's motion. Rather than face certain defeat, he quickly began a flurry of Senate appointments, filling all vacant seats with Progressive Conservative supporters and invoking a clause in the Constitution (Secton 26 of The Constitution Act, 1867) allowing him to increase the Senate's size and appoint eight more senators than normal. In a few short weeks, Mulroney was able to create a Progressive Conservative majority in the Senate and the GST bill was easily passed.
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Who said I like Mulroney? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Senate-packing is as bad as court-packing (a la FDR).
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Now the other view on the Senate is that it has mostly been working and there's no need to change it. All that would result in elected senators is the slowing down of parliament and one house blocking the other with bills if there are 2 different parties controlling the Commons and Senate. |
That's laughable. Only a fool thinks the Senate is working. Quebec and the Atlantic provinces have way more power than they should. Remeber the "mexican" Senator - lived in Mexico 11 months out of 12, yet was a Canadian senator. Then the Reform Party hired that mariachi band to bring attention to him... HAHAHH brilliant!
| quote: | | Just because they are appointed doesn't make it wrong. Supreme Court judges are appointed, but nobody is complaining about them. |
Are you high? The Supreme Court of Canada is an absolute joke!
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The whole point of the Senate was to ensure a check against Commons' decisions. They are there to make suggestions to bills, not to introduce new ones (at least none that involve public money). |
Exactly. Yet today it is a Lieberal rubber-stamp.
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This is the same argument as the Queen. Why is it ok to have a symbolic Queen be the official head of state, but then it's not ok to have a rubber-stamping Senate who really doesn't block many House votes? Both are really symbolic, although in theory they are entitled to exercise much more power. |
Jihad King didn't propose reform; that would have been legitimate. Instead, he disparaged the Queen personally (rhymes with "runt").
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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