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DJ Intrigue
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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Deja-vu anyone?


Oh, most definitely. 'Round and 'round we go...
n0bben-
hm. thread gone to hell, since dj piazza entered.
what a surprise.

why don't u go mix some pro elite mixes, and let the ones who can discuss on a mature level continue?
Dave Piazza
quote:
Originally posted by Ory
What's your point? You're the one who's acting like a child. :stongue:


Oh i didn't it was being a child when someone is try to preserve the work of an artist through a public outcry against illegal MP3 sharing.


Your absolutely correct Ory, all artists want their music to be given free to everyone everywhere.


I hope airbase won't mind that I will be downloading his songs for free and sending them out to all my friends. I also make sure to tell them if they like his work to use P2P to download more free samples.
paranoik0
we all know "TA doesn't support filesharing" but is it really needed to flame a guy for a bunch of pages in every thread just because he used a bunch of illegal mp3s in a amateur set? dave you're sounding like a broken record as usually
Ory
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Piazza
I hope airbase won't mind that I will be downloading his songs for free and sending them out to all my friends. I also make sure to tell them if they like his work to use P2P to download more free samples.


The only problem I have with filesharing is professional DJs who use the mp3s to promote themselves. I don't see the harm in, say, someone like AlphaStarred mixing a couple of mp3's and sharing a mix on TA. That's just promoting the tracks, I mean, they're gonna get played on the radio and in livesets all over the place anyway, so why not.
Dave Piazza
quote:
Originally posted by n0bben-
hm. thread gone to hell, since dj piazza entered.
what a surprise.

why don't u go mix some pro elite mixes, and let the ones who can discuss on a mature level continue?



oh please.


What do you suggest we do Nooben, say its ok for poeple to use illegal MP3's. Or should we all just eliminate those who have a different understand of music than you.

This thrad made it very clear that illegal MP3 use is wrong. If you don't understand that than I think your a fool. If you were honest in your convictions about illegal MP3's than you would be talking about AlphaStarred illegal use of them instead of trying to play a childish game of name calling with me.


If anyone should be in the postion to judge the content of my threads is should not be you; again you try to speak as if you are some gatekeeper.

You are nobody and you carry no weight in what you say. Unlike you, people read what I say and that botheres you, for if no one cared about what I said there would be no need to opine about what I said.
_Ocean_Drive_
Yep, I'd like to be able to buy underground singles on CD from the Nikola Gala and Intrinsic.

And...... my 2 other most wanted (old but still want them!)

Hemstock & Jennings - Mirage
Super8 - Alba

I'd buy singles; not to use them for DJing as such, but siply to support the artists.
Dave Piazza
quote:
Originally posted by Ory
The only problem I have with filesharing is professional DJs who use the mp3s to promote themselves. I don't see the harm in, say, someone like AlphaStarred mixing a couple of mp3's and sharing a mix on TA. That's just promoting the tracks, I mean, they're gonna get played on the radio and in livesets all over the place anyway, so why not.


the problem is that all his files he got are illegal. No artist gave him permission to use them. The professional DJ's buy their rights to use that work or producers give them the rights. He didn't do either.

His actions only encourage the other 1,000,000 bedroom DJ's to stop buying tracks and just download it.

Chemicial and Juno would love to have all us wannabe DJ's just download for free to promote, right? :rolleyes:
AlphaStarred
...not to mention me relating numerous times i purchase digital d/ls and cd-rs, compilations, etc, but that appears to be beyond some people's comprehension :p

back on topic: i think cd-rs are siginificant in their own right. many a production, such as The Digital Blonde's remix of Point Zero 04' was never released on vinyl, which is very unfortunate :whip:

also Matt Darey, among other label proprietors, plans to have digital downloads to be bought, many i hear that aren't going to be sold as vinyl.
Ory
With access to P2P networks, atleast he can hear the track, and there's a chance that he'll buy it. If he had no intention to buy it in the first place, then that's it, no money for the producer anyway.

Look, it's naive to think that you can get someone to do what you want. Flaming him won't help. Tell the moderators about his illegal mix all ya want, heck, they even locked his thread, but just let it go now.

Dave Piazza
The problem is that artist make money from DJ sales NOT from general public sales. The DJ's are promoting themselves more than they are the artists. People will spend money to buy that DJ's CD or spend money to see him live. They are not going to go buy individual singles ( unless they are that small segment of music freaks).


The public buys mix cds and goes to clubs. They rarely would go out and buy artist single releases. They expect the DJ to do that for them through a mix. You are confusing Pop Music with Dance Music in the involvement of the general public.


If you think its ok for DJs to download illegal MP3's for free to promote the music than there would be No money made for the artist because like I said DJ's account for 90% of the revenues for an artist through legal vinyl and MP3 sales.



If you don't understand the seriousness that illegal file sharing causes for this industry than you are a fool.
Airbase
dj tek:
please, what you think of my music or not is completely irrelevant.
What i make from my job and how I spend it is non of your business, and even if it was, it doesnt have the slightest to do with what we are originally discussing here.
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