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Time to give up vinyl for CD! (pg. 9)
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| Dave Piazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Screen
well put DJ Intrigue,
I’m very picky on the vinyl I buy because I’m on a limited budget. Just because I praise an artist, does that mean I must spend every dollar I own on what ever current material He's releasing? NO, I sample music, and if it’s a mediocre song chances are I will pass. Even though I share the song I wont buy, perhaps another “anonymous” user will get it from me and differ from my perception of the track (in thus buying it) |
The reality of the matter is people who download free (illegal) MP3's are not using MP3 file sharing for the purpose of sampling and/or discovering an artist. They clearly know what they are looking for and use p2p to get it for free.
Studies have also shown people are only willing to buy an artist album only if they like the majority of the tracks he/she has produced. This fact is not good news for the dance music community which strives on ambiguous artists which appear and disappear quickly. |
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| JFernie |
| if everone has cd decks, why will they bother buying a cd single if they can download it for free then burn it for use on there lovely cdj's |
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| Dave Piazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by JFernie
if everone has cd decks, why will they bother buying a cd single if they can download it for free then burn it for use on there lovely cdj's |
shhhh don't speak to loudly because you may offend the 1,000,000 bedroom DJ's that think this pratice is ok. |
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| Petrogad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dave Piazza
shhhh don't speak to loudly because you may offend the 1,000,000 bedroom DJ's that think this pratice is ok. |
hahaha i like Dave
Vinyls will never die and i think this thread has been posted about 900 times (this same debate) and its always 1 or 2 well rounded people who decide they will start another stupid thread before looking to see that there has been about 9 of those already started.
vinyls will never die and its pointless to think otherwise
cheers |
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| Fundamental |
| quote: | Originally posted by Airbase
If it wasnt for mp3, listeners wouldnt know of 95% of all the artists and tracks they know about now, and there are still a dedicated group of people that uses mp3 for prelistening new stuff, then buys the records they like.
Who are they then? These are people with an immense intrest in this music genre, and they most certainly own a turntable.
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| quote: | Originally posted by Airbase
No they arent, they download. All of them download. |
Well thanks very much for tarring everyone with the same brush. I happen to work the old fashioned way spend my time in the local record store listening to vinyl in the hope that I'll find something I enjoy. Do I have turntables? No longer, yet I continue to support the artists that I like (Yes, that includes yourself). Do I download mp3's? No, because it's not what I want to do. So please think next time before you make ignorant generalisations insulting the people who are paying for your lunch.
Personally I would only buy a CD if it's a decent quality album/compilation and it's worth the money. If you think that there is oodles of money waiting to be made from releasing CD singles for the casual listener I think you are very much mistaken. |
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| n0bben- |
| Question to Airbase, did you pay for Reason? i wanna know |
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| >>FK |
:D
Bra fråga :eek:
But that is something every composer does first, buy the musicprogs etc, at least thats what I'd do :cool: |
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| TranceLuver4evr |
The post made some good valid points...
I think it's good to have both cuz CD decks still doesn't have the vinyl feel but yet there are much more u can do on CD decks than TTs
I'm saving $$ for my CDJ-1000s too since I have my TTs already :D |
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| nrjizer |
| quote: | Originally posted by isoterra
No vinyls = no record labels. People would just purchase legal mp3s and burn them themselves rather than buy CDs from labels (and you don't need a label to get your tunes on said sites); it's cheaper and more convenient. No record labels = no signings. No signings = no need for 'signable' quality. Result? Quality of music goes down. |
Incorrect.
When a label sells a mp3, they are making 100% Profit off that sale, because an mp3 is a digital file that can be duplicated an infinate amount of times at zero cost. When a label sells a CD or vinyl record, they must first pay for the physical media, label, cover, etc, then have it shipped (most often to a record store, who then sells it at a higher price). Any left over copies floating around become money down the tubes.
And by the way, there were artists making great EDM back before there were even any labels to sell it. To sit here and tell me that all artists are going to start making half assed tracks just because they don't have to worry about getting signed is a slap in the face to the pioneers that put you here, as well as many excellent ameture/professional artists that exist today. |
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| DC- |
| quote: | Originally posted by nrjizer
Incorrect.
When a label sells a mp3, they are making 100% Profit off that sale, because an mp3 is a digital file that can be duplicated an infinate amount of times at zero cost. When a label sells a CD or vinyl record, they must first pay for the physical media, label, cover, etc, then have it shipped (most often to a record store, who then sells it at a higher price). Any left over copies floating around become money down the tubes.
And by the way, there were artists making great EDM back before there were even any labels to sell it. To sit here and tell me that all artists are going to start making half assed tracks just because they don't have to worry about getting signed is a slap in the face to the pioneers that put you here, as well as many excellent ameture/professional artists that exist today. |
Incorrect, only if the label has it's own digital music shop, ie. Anjunabeats, and even at that, it's still not 100% profit. You have to consider bandwidth and maintence fees. If as a label you have a deal with audiojelly or beatport or alike mp3 service, best you can hope for is 50/50 profit share. |
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| töbias |
Is it possible to hear from some Djs that work the trade for a living, and travel a bit to spin, how many venues, and I'm not talking the top line clubs here, have cd decks on hand?
Because as an aspiring Dj most of the venues that one would look to start broadcasting some music at, in the beginning of making a name for yourself, would have a pair of technics, and thats it, I would think.
Sure the bedroom Djs wouldn't care, or those that get excited playing online, but I'm keen to get some gigs and take it from there. And I don't see a point in having a music collection that could rival a music store on compact disc if its impossible to play it once I perform in public.
Thats probably the main reason I still buy on vinyl, other than the fact I find it much sexier and for other emotional, not logical, reasons. |
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| Petrogad |
| quote: | Originally posted by n0bben-
Question to Airbase, did you pay for Reason? i wanna know |
hahahahhaha id like to know too |
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