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Time to give up vinyl for CD! (pg. 3)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| I own CD decks rather than vinyl ones, and I'm all for it. Vinyls have many disadvantages, the price, the size, the small amount of music you can fit on one and the fact you can only play them on a turntable. You can't play vinyls on a walkman, most modern steros or a PC, and it's almost impossible to copy vinyls. I broke a very rare CD once, but because I'd made a copy of it I was able to save one of my favourite singles. Scratch or break a vinyl and you can't back it up, you have to buy a new one. |
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| dj tek |
well, there are few reasons why vinyls are the ..
if youre playing vinyl, either its a promo or an official release youve PURCHASED. so its not just an mp3, its an actual collection of your music library. you can say the same thing with CDs BUT, since the format you'll be playing an mp3 is by burning it to CDs, ppl wont get the same effect when 'buying' cds... only difference will be that you will get a cd cover, the info, better sound quality etc.. but at then end it is the same format[cd] as mp3 when burned...
if like you say, all the major labels switch their main distribution source as CDs, then the vinyl world will decrease especially EDM. but will this happen ? i wont be surprised if it does.. i say, release 2 formats for each single[vinyl & cd] then see which sells faster and slowly decrease the less favored.
all in all, i'll probably never stop buyjng vinyls.. i just love the sound & feel.. cant beat that.
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| paranoik0 |
| i agree with jezper, but don't want to, cuz i'm about to buy a TT :p |
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| nrjizer |
I think stores that sell mp3s (like Beatport) are the way to go. CD singles are nice, but as an avid listener, I don't want to have piles and piles of CD singles hanging around, and seldom will I ever want to listen to them in a standard CD player (at least by themselves), and ripping them is a hassle.
I love Beatport. $1-2 bucks gets you a 320 kbps mp3 that you can download instantly. If you want the wav (I'm a DJ myself so I do), just get a bunch of tracks building up in your cart, then they'll burn the wav files and ship them to you.
The whole "teenager without a credit card" argument doesn't work, because 90% of us (if not more) don't live anywhere near any kind of record store that would sell these CDs. Mp3 pirating becomes necessity instead of choice. And if you don't have a credit card, odds are you don't have a car or license either that would carry you to any record store you might have nearby. |
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| trance-ecj |
I make so many edits of tracks its rediculous...I tweak tons of songs for my sets. Besides using cds due to edits, I can go on to osites like beatport or audiojelly or any other dl place, purchase a new track, burn it, and off i go...no shipping, no warped vinyl in the mail, no risk of a poor recording...just fast and easy...plus, the cds are way easier to carry around than bulky vinyl
But anyway, i was using cds for a while cus of my edits and people were bitching me out...but now i hear less and less bitching these days |
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| AndskiSpeed |
I slightly agree, it'd be more accessible for a lot more people but there'd also be a lot of people that will struggle to find a vinyl if production is decreased and they only have turntables and want to mix, as we can't all afford to just convert to CDJ just like that *clicks fingers*. I agree also that record companies should sell proper CD's with sleeve notes and covers etc instead of just a CDR.
It'd be much better than the legal downloads, theyre such a ripoff (N). In HMV I buy most of my 7" singles for 99p/£1.99 and £1.99 for CD's while on anjunabeats it costs £1.30 for 1 mp3 |
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| Ricky Tan |
System-J
How did you kick your vinyl addiction? Cold Turkey? |
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| starlabs |
Excellent thread!
My two cents:
I would have to agree with the previous posters saying that if you're going to release to CD, make it a proper release - with printouts and such, not as CDR.
It all comes down to "value" and "owning". People like to own things, and they like to feel that the things they own have value. If you give them a CDR, it's not much different from what they can download and just burn themselves. That will just fall flat. You won't sell much CDs that way. You need to add extra value to the CD pressings: maybe comments from the producer on how they made the track or what inspired/influenced them. Pics of their studio. Extra tracks (maybe acapellas, or samples). Something "extra" that will give value, that will have the potential consumer think, "Hey, I like this song. And this cd has some extra cool stuff. Maybe it's worth the $$$ to buy instead of just downloading the tune off some P2P."
As for vinyl, there's two types of people who buy or collect vinyl: those who do it because they love the medium, and those who do it because that's where the latest releases are. The first group will rarely or never buy cd's regardless of what you do, but the second group will switch to CDs. And that second group will grow all the time. |
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| flavdave |
| If cd decks weren't so expensive then I would agree with you, Airbase. The problem is a pair of cd decks that function as well and are reliable as Technics 1200s cost almost twice as much. Sure in the long run you can recover that money by purchasing mp3s for $2 rather than vinyl for $10. However, not many young aspiring DJs have that kind of money right off the bat. If Pioneer CDJs or the Technics cd players drop in price, then I think shifting gears towards more cd single releases would be appropriate. |
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| tribu |
| They both have monumentous advantages and disadvatages, but ultimately CD's are cheaper to produce and thats the bottom line for most record labels in a financially difficult age. |
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| n0bben- |
| quote: | Originally posted by starlabs
It all comes down to "value" and "owning". People like to own things, and they like to feel that the things they own have value. If you give them a CDR, it's not much different from what they can download and just burn themselves. That will just fall flat. You won't sell much CDs that way. You need to add extra value to the CD pressings: maybe comments from the producer on how they made the track or what inspired/influenced them. Pics of their studio. Extra tracks (maybe acapellas, or samples). Something "extra" that will give value, that will have the potential consumer think, "Hey, I like this song. And this cd has some extra cool stuff. Maybe it's worth the $$$ to buy instead of just downloading the tune off some P2P."
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Excellent post. this is exactly what i think. |
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| [N]ûk|êû[Z] |
i sorta agree with the CD thing, although i dont like the idea of it, im a big vinyl purist and i beleive that if it wasnt for the DJ culture that vinyls would be extinct years ago, and its true. but i far more appreciate the feel of pulling a 12" out of its sleeve with its artwork on the front that identifies what track it is, and thats its home, and placing the large acetate disc with one particular track enscribed on it. yeah maybe i sound like im talking and yeah i probably am, but each one of these large discs and theyre own respective sleeve all add up to make a collection of handpicked tunes, and that i feel is quite important as it sort of defines you as a DJ.. what your willing to pay good money for, for one track, as opposed to 'hmm ill download all these tracks, wollop them all on a CD and see what i feel like playing'
the way you handle a vinyl is more significant than using CDs too, as you need to be accurate with your hands, if your sluggish with the vinyl, youll perhaps mess up or speedup/slowdown too much, and thats where the art of it is, its more hands on than CDs.
the cost of vinyls dosnt faze me at all, and i couldnt care less if theyre more expensive to reproduce than CDs. it quite enfuriates me when ppl turn to CDs for the sake of ease and compromize, but thats just me. i doubt ill ever move on to CDs as i feel itd be like playing football with a velcro ball and velcro boots [kinda takes the fun out of it] |
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