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The #1 DJ In the World (pg. 13)
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sandstorm03
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Originally posted by Lira
Top 3 colours of all time

Grey: Right between white and black, it's the balance of all colours and intensities.

Black: It's stylish and nihilist at the same time. Most contradictions come from this colour, in every possible sense.

White: Wet shirt contests. Period.


colors are just a reflection of light...


black is an absence/absorbtion of color...(no color)

and white is the reflection of colors...(all colors)
BrownTA4Life
Ishkur you
ur guide made me download that stupid How Old Are You song by in'Miko Mission:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
d-miurge
hundreds of post for an idiot concept: it's impossible to elect the dj #1, Z-Trip does not have more skills that a DJ Shadow for example, but it's a different style, a different musical research, and I don't see an objective criteria in the Ishkur's article. It's like trying to mix oil and water.
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
colors are just a reflection of light...


black is an absence/absorbtion of color...(no color)

and white is the reflection of colors...(all colors)

Lee, sit back, breathe deeply and then read what you've just said.
sandstorm03
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Lee, sit back, breathe deeply and then read what you've just said.


yea i had an engineering moment :(

the difference between black & white is the luminosity....

:thepirate
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
yea i had an engineering moment :(

the difference between black & white is the luminosity....

:thepirate

What I meant to say is... that post was a joke, there was no need to correct it :p
auranaut
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Originally posted by BrownTA4Life


Heeey, you're the kind of person we've been talking about all the way through this thread. :stongue:
sandstorm03
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
What I meant to say is... that post was a joke, there was no need to correct it :p



i know :D, but i bet ya learned somethin new.
Ishkur
quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
sat down? mountains of sets? reviews? releases? articles? forums? um how did u do that? If u sat down at - home how did u get on the dance floor for your experiment?


I have a 2000 watt soundsystem and a giant empty room in my house.

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
Also to make your decision using a dancefloor did you happen to see EVERY DJ on the planet


Well, it did take me close to ten years....

Besides, going to clubs to see DJs is overrated because:

1) If a guy can't impress me with a prepared setlist on a CD expertly mixed together with Protools that is error-free, he's not going to impress me in person with an always-less-than-perfect live set.
2) Sound in 99% of all clubs is e. The engineers do not have a clue what they're doing, and recent music is often so busy with way too many layers, pads, and background elements that it causes horrendous amounts of bleeding and washout on bigrig soundsystems. Sometimes the only element you can make out is the beat. Listening to a set at home, without the distractions of alcohol, inane lighting, fellow clubbers, lousy acoustics and rotten sound actually allots me a far more accurate and critical evaluation of a DJs worth.
3) I am not wowed by a guy's ability to jump up and down and wave his arms in the air. That's not "interacting with the crowd", that's acting like an idiot. So his presence is not a mitigating factor in determining how good he is. Take away those lightning rods surrounding the decks, and how good is Tiesto, really?

A DJ's purpose is to play other people's music. Always remember that. If he can do that better than anyone else in the world, I will know about it. If he wants to be a rockstar instead, then he loses his "best DJ in the world" status.
tiesto14
quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
I have a 2000 watt soundsystem and a giant empty room in my house.



Means nothing to me man...

Your home does not have the accoustic abilities that a dance club has...u could have a million watts and a Phazon sound system in your house and it STILL wouldnt sound like it would in a club.




quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Well, it did take me close to ten years....



I have been clubbing for about 15 years, seen the so-called best DJs of the time and I still couldnt even CLAIM i have a glimpse into knowing who the real best DJ in the world is. Kind of arrogant...don;t you think?



quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Besides, going to clubs to see DJs is overrated because:

1) If a guy can't impress me with a prepared setlist on a CD expertly mixed together with Protools that is error-free, he's not going to impress me in person with an always-less-than-perfect live set.



The biggest mistake made by internet folks...most people claim they listened to a CD or MP3 and the DJ did not impress them...yet what they fail to realize, like i have told you already, is that being in a club, an event, in surroundings that are fit for the music - sounds a lot different....

I have heard tracks that sounded like such ass at home but when i heard them in a club i was blown away...i have seen DJs who couldnt throw down a good CD if they tried yet made me dance harder then any top 5 DJ of the time...so it goes to show you.



quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
2) Sound in 99% of all clubs is e. The engineers do not have a clue what they're doing, and recent music is often so busy with way too many layers, pads, and background elements that it causes horrendous amounts of bleeding and washout on bigrig soundsystems. Sometimes the only element you can make out is the beat.



ABSURD!!!!!!!!!!!.....how u can make such a claim is beyond me.
You would have to have some amazing house that could sound better then a club...your ceilings would have to be high as hell and the walls would have to be built far different then with simple sheet-rock.
Or maybe the clubs in your area are pure ...who knows.


quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Listening to a set at home, without the distractions of alcohol, inane lighting, fellow clubbers, lousy acoustics and rotten sound actually allots me a far more accurate and critical evaluation of a DJs worth.


Don't drink then at a club.

Lighting builds atmosphere and CAN bring out parts of a track that u hadnt noticed before.

Clubbers CAN be annoying...but so can your phone ringing at home...ignore them.

Lousy acoustics? like i said...no chance u have better ones at home.
What kind of speakers do you have? Detail your setup for us.
How u can CLAIM to have a better sounding sytem then a Phazon system is outrageous...a Phazon system which is the best of the best and costs millions is to your speakers u bought at some store...lol...u always crack me up.


quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
3) I am not wowed by a guy's ability to jump up and down and wave his arms in the air. That's not "interacting with the crowd", that's acting like an idiot. So his presence is not a mitigating factor in determining how good he is. Take away those lightning rods surrounding the decks, and how good is Tiesto, really?



I personally like a DJ who "interacts" with the crowd....but just because you dont...that really make no difference in the quality of a set...assuming when he jumps he doesnt bump the tables.

Tiesto since mid 2002 sucks big time...i wont disagree with u there.



quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
A DJ's purpose is to play other people's music. Always remember that. If he can do that better than anyone else in the world, I will know about it. If he wants to be a rockstar instead, then he loses his "best DJ in the world" status.



WRONG a DJs purpose is to play other people's music FOR THE CROWD IN THE CLUB....to make u dance...they are there to serve US...the clubbers...

It is more then playing other people's records...they have to get the crowd going, dancing, having a good time by picking the best tunes at the right time...I dont care how good of a DJ u are if u cant get me going/dancing then frig you...and wasnt that one of YOUR main points in your first post? THat the DJ has to get u on the floor? Contradiction my friend?

I agree on the rockstar thing...i gringe when i look at Tiesto now...i mean i am happy for him and his success...but at the same time embarassed at how he got there and what he became...thats why i have all but moved on from him and fluffy trance....

SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
I have been clubbing for about 15 years, seen the so-called best DJs of the time and I still couldnt even CLAIM i have a glimpse into knowing who the real best DJ in the world is. Kind of arrogant...don;t you think?


Buy yourself a sense of humour.

And Ish, the live advantage of a DJ is him using the crowd to decide the next track. The true skill and ability of a DJ is their ability to read the crowd and their response, and create genuine energy through the right tracks. Sheer technical talent won't win any fans on the dancefloor if the set is pre-planned and not through spontanaity (sp?). However, when you reach a level of popularity, people will love you whatever the hell you play.

I'm not saying the Top 10 DJs are the best, they're simply the most popular. But you cannot measure talent without being in the room. Technical ability does not mark a fun performance, and the ultimate aim of DJs is to provide fun. If a technically amazing set is boring, it has failed to do its job, and the DJ has failed to be a good DJ.
emperorhui
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Buy yourself a sense of humour.

And Ish, the live advantage of a DJ is him using the crowd to decide the next track. The true skill and ability of a DJ is their ability to read the crowd and their response, and create genuine energy through the right tracks. Sheer technical talent won't win any fans on the dancefloor if the set is pre-planned and not through spontanaity (sp?). However, when you reach a level of popularity, people will love you whatever the hell you play.

I'm not saying the Top 10 DJs are the best, they're simply the most popular. But you cannot measure talent without being in the room. Technical ability does not mark a fun performance, and the ultimate aim of DJs is to provide fun. If a technically amazing set is boring, it has failed to do its job, and the DJ has failed to be a good DJ.


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