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lol @ christianity (pg. 11)
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| Orbax |
| ah....well I think im gonna stop this now that its a post-a-quote-a-thon and personal invectives. Cheers to Jason and Metatron for some interesting conversation. Hopefully this picks up later. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
Would also like to point out that wars have been fought over anything and everything and to claim that religion holds some special seat is to give more power to it then I would think youd want to. |
and probably more often than not religious issues have been used to cover the true political motives behind wars. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
LOL
-Jesus |
:stongue: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: |
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Well at least Dr Sues writes positives books and not a book like the bible which is filled with nonsensical, horrific acts. Do you know that the word hate is mentioned over 100x times more than than the word love in the bible? |
"is" and "and" probably are too. It doesnt mean they are the message. |
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
LOL
-Jesus |
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| jdat |
lol enough with the quote for quote battle :p
ps : it is believed by many that Albert Einstein may have been a christian. |
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| THE_Chris |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
and probably more often than not religious issues have been used to cover the true political motives behind wars. |
Other way round IMO. Political moves are swayed a frightning amount by religous nonsense.
Dont forget Bushs entire anti-terrorism war was started because, in Bushs' own words "God told me to strike at Al-Queda".
I wont get involved in this discussion cos I'll just make a rake of enemies due to my extremely antireligous views. |
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| lex400sc |
" If history and science have taught us anything, it is that passion and desire are not the same as truth. The human mind evolved to believe in the gods. It did not evolve to believe in biology. Acceptance of the supernatural conveyed a great advantage throughout prehistory, when the brain was evolving. Thus it is in sharp contrast to biology, which was developed as a product of the modern age and is not underwritten by genetic algorithms. The uncomfortable truth is that the two beliefs are not factually compatible. As a result those who hunger for both intellectual and religious truth will never acquire both in full measure. "
- Edward O. Wilson
" Whatever good you would do out of fear of punishment, or hope of reward hereafter, the Atheist would do simply because it is good; and being so, he would receive the far surer and more certain reward, springing from well-doing, which would constitute his pleasure, and promote his happiness. "
- Ernestine L. Rose
" Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. "
- Thomas Jefferson
" The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills. "
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814
" As you say of yourself, I too am an Epicurian. I consider the genuine (not the imputed) doctrines of Epicurus as containing everything rational in moral philosophy which Greece and Rome have left us. "
- Thomas Jefferson
" Man once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder, is the sport of every wind. "
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Smith
" It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it [the Apocalypse], and I then considered it merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams. "
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to General Alexander Smyth
" I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature.....Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion?To make half the world fools and half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the world. "
- Thomas Jefferson |
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| lex400sc |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
ah....well I think im gonna stop this now that its a post-a-quote-a-thon and personal invectives. Cheers to Jason and Metatron for some interesting conversation. Hopefully this picks up later. |
You dont really have a place in this discussion any more... |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
and not having a debate with someone you like because you wont be able to control yourself is a bad thing. |
No...but i dont want offend his beleifs...i respect him.
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
Also, in regard to your sig I find that Saint Jude's hospital might be a tiny antithesis to your claim of religious suffering. |
That is true...but St Judes is not a religous hospital...its just a name...no need to read into that. And you are so religous...why dont u go sponser a child from there? Isnt that the RIGHT thing to do? Or do you just look at my sig and say having that little extra money is more important to you then some kid? Religous people crack me up. Always pointing the finger.
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
Would also like to point out that wars have been fought over anything and everything and to claim that religion holds some special seat is to give more power to it then I would think youd want to. |
More people have died in the name of God than any other thing since the begining of time..do you deny that? I mean come on..God himself is the single biggest mass murderer to ever exist...remember that huge flood that Noah had to deal with? How many people did God knowingly kill? Children? Women? ppffff!! |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by THE_Chris
Other way round IMO. Political moves are swayed a frightning amount by religous nonsense.
Dont forget Bushs entire anti-terrorism war was started because, in Bushs' own words "God told me to strike at Al-Queda".
I wont get involved in this discussion cos I'll just make a rake of enemies due to my extremely antireligous views. |
well if you really believe that's what bush thinks and that it has nothing to do with the fact he wanted to finish the job his daddy couldn't...then i guess you're welcome to that oppinion haha |
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