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The Official 2006/2007 Toronto Raptors & NBA Thread (pg. 35)
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| MarkT |
btw...who is NOT enjoying the smackdown Phoenix is giving the Lakers :)
I dunno if trading TJ with 2 years left is 'harder' to do...mainly because a team acquiring him isn't looking to dump salary, they'd be looking to keep him.
salaries have to match in trades where both teams are near or above the salary cap, but I think it's just the annual salaries, not the total contract.
So...let's say a team has a guy with 20 mil/year, 3 yrs left...they want to dump him and rebuild. They can either try for a package of 3 young talented players who each make 6-7 mil, regardless of whether or not they have 1 or 5 year contracts, because they intend to keep/re-sign them.
or...they can try for 1 or more players making 20 mil combined, but who only have a year left, because then they are free agents and their salary is gone, leaving the team with money to shop for free agents.
this is relevant for teams near or above the cap...if a team is *way* below the cap, they can take on as much salary as they want.
for TJ Ford, 2 years isn't a long time and a team acquiring him would likely be looking to hang on to him.
that's all "AFAIK"...someone correct me if I'm wrong.
the NBA salary cap, collective bargaining agreement, etc. is a freakin' nightmare to understand :conf: :conf: :conf: |
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| Porky |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jeff Button
FG% .436
3PT% .304
FT % .819
REB 3.1
STL 1.4
TO 3.08
AST 7.9
PTS 14.0
FG% .521
3PT% .333
FT % .818
REB 2.2 **
STL 1.1 **
TO 1.85 **
AST 7.2 **
PTS 11.3 **
** increased based on if calderon played the same minutes as ford.
points, steals, assists, rebounds = ford wins.
regardless of all that, we have both of them on the squad this year - which is one of the reason's the raps have faired so well all year. depth at the guard position is tough to find in the NBA, and when you have it you are at a huge advantage. |
ford wins? not necessarily
1. Calderone's FG% of 52% is almost 8points above tj ford's 44%. awesome for a PG
2. the key stat that counts for a PG? Assist/TO, in which Calderon wins easily
3. TJ Ford is a defensive liability at 5'10" .. compared to the 6'3" calderon |
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| TheVrk |
| quote: | Originally posted by jon jon
Anyone else feel like bargnani was just taking up space? |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
Yeah, Kinda. He took some unnecessary shots. But still, he's still in recovering mode. |
Plus he's still a kid in his first NBA playoffs |
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| exstasie |
| quote: | Originally posted by TheVrk
Plus he's still a kid in his first NBA playoffs |
Exactly! Plus all of the added pressure of playing at home? That has to have an effect on your game with 19,800 fans cheering for you and every shot being a critical shot! No one wants to disappoint the home town fans!
Even Mitchell was saying that the road should be better for some of these players as it will alleviate some of that home crowd pressure |
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| TheVrk |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
Even Mitchell was saying that the road should be better for some of these players as it will alleviate some of that home crowd pressure |
This is true in many cases |
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| slingshot |
| Turnovers aren't a big deal when talking about point guards. They are totally dependant on that players style of play. I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Nash led all point guards in turnovers. I know for sure he's up there. |
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| exstasie |
Alright..hopefully the Raps win. I bet whatever was left over in my online gambling account on the Raptors.
The spread was +4.5 for the Raptors tomorrow...
I guess no one has faith in them haha |
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| Sly_Guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
Agreed. If the Nets had a bit more depth, the experience of their key players would have carried them through.
The Raps are showing jitters. But if they do beat the Nets... the confidence boost will be high |
I agree. But I don't think it'll take all series for them to get that boost. Eventually, they'll have a game where the jumpers are falling, and that'll do it for them. The simple fact that they're keeping the games competitive when essentially our entire team is bent over and ready to be had is a good sign. True, we still haven't seen Carter's best this series, but we also haven't seen the best from the majority of our players yet either.
As for Bargnani, he's playing like a deer caught in headlights. During the regular season he'd often take bad shots, try his non-exsistent post up game, and essentially do other things no suited to helping the team win, but because in the playoffs each possession is magnified, he, and ultimately we cannot get away with that anymore. I suspect Andrea will be a limited or a complete non-factor for us during our entire playoff run. |
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| Porky |
| quote: | Originally posted by slingshot
Turnovers aren't a big deal when talking about point guards. They are totally dependant on that players style of play. I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Nash led all point guards in turnovers. I know for sure he's up there. |
i'd have to disagree.
turnovers compared to the amount of dimes you dish out are very indicative of your performance as a PG.
even though Nash may lead other PGs in turnovers, the fact that he dishes out almost 12 dimes means that he is 1. distributing the ball and 2. protecting the rock
steve nash 2006/2007 season = 11.6 assists/3.78 TO = 3.07 ratio
nash = 3.1
ford = 2.5
calderone = 3.9 |
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| Sly_Guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Porky
i'd have to disagree.
turnovers compared to the amount of dimes you dish out are very indicative of your performance as a PG.
even though Nash may lead other PGs in turnovers, the fact that he dishes out almost 12 dimes means that he is 1. distributing the ball and 2. protecting the rock
steve nash 2006/2007 season = 11.6 assists/3.78 TO = 3.07 ratio
nash = 3.1
ford = 2.5
calderone = 3.9 |
This is true, the amount of times you get someone an open shot compared to the amount of times you turn it over is probably the primary stat for any PG. Anything over 3 is usually pretty good. Mugsy was best in this ratio for his career if I'm not mistaken, and he's in the 3.0-3.5 range [verify?] |
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| DigitalMP |
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| MarkT |
Turnovers on their own don't tell the whole story...that's why assist-to-turnover ratio is a better marker of a good ballhandling PG
While Nash indeed leads all PGs in turnovers, he also leads in assists...and ends up 8th in assist-to-turnover ratio (Calderon is 4th behind Daniels, Paul and Billups...and TJ is 25th).
for a "pure PG", this is the most telling stat, along with FG% (because if you can't shoot, your opponents simply leave you alone and double up on someone else...hence Calderon's FAR superior FG% furthers the argument that he's a "better PG" than Ford...that doesn't mean Calderon is a better all-around player, just a better pure PG, IMHO). |
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