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Barrie Teen runs away, parents blame Video Games (pg. 16)
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| zokissima |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sentinal
Tehy will be able to tell how long he has been dead for by the decomposition of the body and also finds signs of foul play from doing the autopsy. Personally I think there was something bad going down. He was 15 not 5, I'm sure he had some resoure skills if he was in some sort of trouble. |
You gotta wonder though, someone stupid enough to run away from home, in a fit of anger, over a game that they play probably isn't in the most coherent or survival-oriented mindset. Not trying to be insensitive here, just saying... |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by zokissima
You gotta wonder though, someone stupid enough to run away from home, in a fit of anger, over a game that they play probably isn't in the most coherent or survival-oriented mindset. Not trying to be insensitive here, just saying... |
its called natural selection |
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| English Rachel |
| quote: | Originally posted by teufel-man
Yeah this is what I was trying to prove in my above post! People are just using this as an easy way to attack video games! Its not like he was trying to emulate something he learned from Call of Duty 4 by running away from his parents into the woods! |
And how do you know that? Come on, the desensitizing that these games do is shocking. Hence why they come with ratings. To be honest, I think games should be MORE controlled than movies because many people 'become' their characters when they are at impressionable ages.
I also think it is abominable to liken him running away to doing the same for a bike being taken away. Seriously guys, look past the end of your nose. This game obviously meant a lot more to him than it is intended to.... |
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| teufel-man |
| quote: | Originally posted by English Rachel
And how do you know that?
I also think it is abominable to liken him running away to doing the same for a bike being taken away.
Seriously guys, look past the end of your nose. This game obviously meant a lot more to him than it is intended to.... |
How do I know? I've owned the game for more than 11 months...
Bike not a good example? its all about what the kid is passionate about. Some kids love Hockey, some love reading, some love video games, some love skateboarding, etc. If you take a video game from a kid who loves skateboarding, he isnt going to run away, because he isnt passionate about video games. The reason this kid freaked out was because his parents took away what he loves most, and that happened to be a video game.
The reason the game meant so much to him is due to the competitive nature of the video game. When you go online you are competing against people from all over the world, and lots of people get really into it and just want to be the best. A lot of people I know are obsessed with this game, because frankly, its jus a great game! However, nothing about the game itself would make him run away from home. By that I mean, its not a game that glorifies 'running away from home' for instance... If this was grand theft auto and the kid went out and stole a car, it would be a whole different story.
The kid loved this game because it is a very fun game which can get very competitive, and his parents took it away from him and he got extremely upset. I feel the competitive nature of the game is what made him so attached to the game.
However, like I said before, this could easily have happened if a kid who went skateboarding for 5 hours a day had his skateboard taken away by his parents.
That being said, yes kids can get too attached to certain things, such as but not limited to, video games, and these 'addictions' should be dealt with. however, this problem is not exclusive to video games, or call of duty 4 specifically! |
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| The Ear |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
showing how immature he was.
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| Capo di tutti |
Why debate?
Someone made a mistake somewhere down the line...the poor kid's dead...he's not coming back...1 kid out of billions even if it was 100 its not a global epidemic...it was a tragic mistake...
how about those raptors? |
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| English Rachel |
| quote: | Originally posted by teufel-man
How do I know? I've owned the game for more than 11 months...
Bike not a good example? its all about what the kid is passionate about. Some kids love Hockey, some love reading, some love video games, some love skateboarding, etc. If you take a video game from a kid who loves skateboarding, he isnt going to run away, because he isnt passionate about video games. The reason this kid freaked out was because his parents took away what he loves most, and that happened to be a video game.
The reason the game meant so much to him is due to the competitive nature of the video game. When you go online you are competing against people from all over the world, and lots of people get really into it and just want to be the best. A lot of people I know are obsessed with this game, because frankly, its jus a great game! However, nothing about the game itself would make him run away from home. By that I mean, its not a game that glorifies 'running away from home' for instance... If this was grand theft auto and the kid went out and stole a car, it would be a whole different story.
The kid loved this game because it is a very fun game which can get very competitive, and his parents took it away from him and he got extremely upset. I feel the competitive nature of the game is what made him so attached to the game.
However, like I said before, this could easily have happened if a kid who went skateboarding for 5 hours a day had his skateboard taken away by his parents.
That being said, yes kids can get too attached to certain things, such as but not limited to, video games, and these 'addictions' should be dealt with. however, this problem is not exclusive to video games, or call of duty 4 specifically! |
I understand that. How old are you? Can you remember being 15? i can. I used to get pissed off with my parents all the time and want to run away. I have never played the game and I hold my hands up to that but if you think about the messages it may have given him, not obvious ones but more subliminal, do you think there is a possibility that the game could have given him grandiose survival expecations? Do you think it could have been SO important to him that he would rather die than not play it? I know that seems extreme but kids throughout decades have taken things far too far. Can anyone remember the Dungeons and Dragons days where kids and young adults would take their lives because their character died??
Look, I am glad you enjoy your game and I would never want to take that away from you but I implore you to reconsider the impact it may have had on a 15 year old, pubescent, rebellious, hormonal young man from Barrie. |
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| English Rachel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Capo di tutti
Why debate?
Someone made a mistake somewhere down the line...the poor kid's dead...he's not coming back...1 kid out of billions even if it was 100 its not a global epidemic...it was a tragic mistake...
how about those raptors? |
We're having an adult discussion about the impact, that's what the board is best for so shut it :p |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by English Rachel
And how do you know that? Come on, the desensitizing that these games do is shocking. Hence why they come with ratings. To be honest, I think games should be MORE controlled than movies because many people 'become' their characters when they are at impressionable ages.
I also think it is abominable to liken him running away to doing the same for a bike being taken away. Seriously guys, look past the end of your nose. This game obviously meant a lot more to him than it is intended to.... |
speaking of the game - saw a commercial for Call of Duty 4 the other day, I swear, I'd be terrified to play that, and I'm 25 in 2 months :nervous: |
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| Capo di tutti |
| quote: | Originally posted by English Rachel
We're having an adult discussion about the impact, that's what the board is best for so shut it :p |
Rachel, I'll be honest you may be the only one to shut me up....seriously...and YOU know that...
*zips mouth* |
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| smuncky |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
speaking of the game - saw a commercial for Call of Duty 4 the other day, I swear, I'd be terrified to play that, and I'm 25 in 2 months :nervous: |
it's cuz you don't know what all those buttons on the controller do.:p |
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| teufel-man |
| quote: | Originally posted by English Rachel
I understand that. How old are you? Can you remember being 15? i can. I used to get pissed off with my parents all the time and want to run away. I have never played the game and I hold my hands up to that but if you think about the messages it may have given him, not obvious ones but more subliminal, do you think there is a possibility that the game could have given him grandiose survival expecations? Do you think it could have been SO important to him that he would rather die than not play it? I know that seems extreme but kids throughout decades have taken things far too far. Can anyone remember the Dungeons and Dragons days where kids and young adults would take their lives because their character died??
Look, I am glad you enjoy your game and I would never want to take that away from you but I implore you to reconsider the impact it may have had on a 15 year old, pubescent, rebellious, hormonal young man from Barrie. |
My point is, the kid really liked the game because it is A)fun and B) very competitive.... and these factors may have caused the game to be 'addictive'.
However, I totally disagree with (but still respect) your point about the game giving him 'grandiose survival expecations'. My theory is: they took away the game which he was obsessed with, he made an emotionally charged decision to run away into the woods, and once his emotions cooled down he probably realised 'oh , I dont know how to find my way back', and they he died due to exposure/starvation/whatever.
It wasnt that he would rather die than not play the game, or that he felt he could survive in the woods due to what he learned from playing call of duty 4. He just made a stupid, emotionally charged decision, which resulted in the most unfortunate consequence.
I feel terrible for this kid and the parents, I just dont think it is right to say that the video game itself was a significant factor in his death. The video game could have easily been any other child's toy... |
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