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| TranceGiant |
Came home from the IMAX/3D screening. It seriously took me half an hour to click back into reality. I think overdoing it my your mind up in the long term :eyespop: :eyespop: :eyespop:
Amazing experience. |
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| Theresa |
Went and saw this in 3D last night (my first 3D movie), and it was awesome :D I loved it!! The imagery was fantastic, the CGI was exceptional, and the story itself, although not super thought provoking and/or complicated, was very entertaining.
Enjoyed it! |
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| bananas |
| I like that Giovanni Ribisi is in this one, I think he's an amzing actor and very underrated |
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| R!CH |
| the movie could have used a bit more character development, but i think it held up fine at 2:40 min without it. the only thing that got old for me was all the mother africa music. i found the themes relevant and familiar, so what if the plot was a reinvention. most of all i was thoroughly entertained for my money--and for the most part i think movie tickets are a waste of perfectly good dinner money. i hope the sequel carries the story in a new direction, maybe even a new environment. |
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| drivingforce |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
Alien, Aliens, Terminator and Terminator 2 were all equally transparent and equally predictable, unoriginal stories. |
idk this comment seems to warrant the thought and conclusion that you are indeed an idiot. Transparent maybe but Alien was extremely original for it's time. First off having a female lead in a horror scifi wasn't used that much at the time, espeically a protagonist hero being a female in that type of environment was different as well. Even the structuring was different. No movie before alien ever really did a grungy darker future. You had star wars star trek and then numerous low budget movies i wont even mention. All had one thing in common. That the future in the movies looked "clean" everything is glimmering n shiny. Cameron's alien n aliens made the future darker as well as the equipment looking alittle more twisted and not so pristine or perfect. The technique used in alien was similar to that of jaws, yes but again the story is still original. As well as terminator. The prob is avatar doesn't reach the originality of his previous works. If you still see alien or aliens or terminator as unoriginal then you my friend really do not know cinema.
Also h.r giger created a completely original alien that is timeless. Again a different angle and perspective on the same subject. Avatar aliens...i dont see any creativity or
originality.
edit-just incase anyone says go see it before critiquing. Saw it last night ripped. Was entertaining but wouldn't see it again. Just the characters were too weak for me to attach to. Overall i think the think all movies that use cgi need to work on the eyes. Granted i know it is extremely difficult and arduous process cgi depending on what your trying to do, but for me to attach to a character their eyes need to portary emotion. Sadly i think the cgi did a better job than the lead cast. just personal opinion. |
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| Dj Minaya |
| quote: | Originally posted by bananas
I like that Giovanni Ribisi is in this one, I think he's an amzing actor and very underrated |
He really is.
So underused and every film he's in he usually steals the scenes. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
The success of the aliens series is almost entirely derivative of Giger's work. Scott and O'bannon just sort of put a chase-story-in-space twist on it. Just because something is seemingly "different" doesn't make it an automatic work of originality or genius - the first movie was a very, very basic (albeit effective!) horror tale involving running from your fears rather than fighting them. That's a really primal concept - ancient man could probably tell you all about running from just to survive. Being prey is truly nothing new, it's just horrific to us because we are so naturally accustomed to our place in the food chain.
The second film was a much better "movie" in that Cameron obviously was a fan of the first, and decided to make his own creative additions and a whole lot more studio money. Not only that, but a fair amount of research was done on his behalf when sculpting the pathos of the characters and Ripley's "return" to a deeply traumatic experience and place - Cameron once remarked in an interview that his interpretation of her was derived from Vietnam vets and their compulsion to return for second tours due to the psychology behind post-traumatic stress. I dunno, I think that's really quite smart. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
The original Alien isn't very original at all in terms of narrative content. It's essentially a mash-up of two Cold War era B-movies: It! The Terror From Beyond Space and Planet Of The Vampires.
Thematically it's probably "deeper" and more "thought-provoking" than Cameron's entry into the series, but like a lot of Ridley Scott films it's a ing car crash of subtext. You've got an original premise by O'Bannon based on parasitic wasps, which is basically about the fear of bringing something nasty home from a foreign trip. Then you've got Giger's artistic input, which was only made after the original xenomorph designs sucked so hard. Giger's work adds a whole load of sexual horror, both phallic and rape. Throw in the original Cold War themes of the source material and you're left with a movie that suggests any number of deep ideas and doesn't resolve any of them.
The first Alien really innovated in two main areas: remaking a Cold War B-movie monster flick with a strong female lead, and the whole grimy mise en scene of the film. With this film and Bladerunner, Scott completely changed how sci-fi looked on screen. Alien is definitely a beautiful film to look at. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
The sets in each of the first 3 Alien movies were all ing superb. Each movie has a "colour" to it that most people I know can immediately place and sort. Not to mention the first one truly had a visual texture to it - all of the directions and lines within the ship - it was almost as though they were an unfortunate crew careening through space inside of the alien, itself. That's no accident.
Apart from the Eros/Thanatos humdrum though, I think the strong, female lead had baser intentions than female empowerment. Though considering Scott did Thelma & Louise some years later, anything is really possible. But what to think about her getting down to her skivvies before crawling into her space suit? True, it shed her in a far more vulnerable, and thus terrifying, light, but that sort of thing still screams studio decision to me.
It kind of seems that some of you are viewing the movie in a sort of dystopic light though, which I really hadn't considered before. If anything, I thought the script lent itself to a more orderly (read: Corporate) future. I don't think the name Weyland-Yutani appeared in the first movie, though I could be wrong. It was definitely in your face by the next one. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
But what to think about her getting down to her skivvies before crawling into her space suit? True, it shed her in a far more vulnerable, and thus terrifying, light, but that sort of thing still screams studio decision to me. |
That's just Ridley Scott being a hack The sexual themes of Alien are scrambled and vague - there's no structure or coherency to them. You should read a few of the feminist interpretations of Alien out there. They're invariably wonderful exercises in scrabbling desperately to make sense of what is essentially senseless.
| quote: | | I don't think the name Weyland-Yutani appeared in the first movie, though I could be wrong. It was definitely in your face by the next one. |
I actually don't think that name actually appears in the cinematic cut. Ash's corporate betrayal of the rest of the crew is a much more dystopic statement than Carter Burke's inept opportunism in Aliens, for me anyway. |
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| infinity HiGH |
Movie: 7/10
Experience: 10/10
Comments: Must be seen in 3D. Basic storyline comprised of current political commentary as well as a man with a broken life finding a new home with a different "culture/race". Executed well enough that, coupled with the visual orgasm, its a mind blowing experience.
This movie puts the magic feeling back into cinema. |
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| Nostalgic |
| I'd give this movie a "B" with the 3D IMAX experience, otherwise it'd be a "C" without it. As amazing as the 3d visuals/experience was which in itself was worth the money watching this movie, one can't ignore the incredibly cliche and obvious ultra-hollywood liberal slant of a "story" James Cameron probably spent 10 seconds coming up with it. Blue forest aliens, good, evil-capitalist humans, bad. |
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