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Avatar looks badass. (pg. 21)
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| Schadenfreude |
| This was a ty kids movie. |
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| nefardec |
just have to say i saw this movie with my folks the day after christmas, and it sucked.
this article sums up my sentiments
http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-wh...ies-like-avatar
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Critics have called alien epic Avatar a version of Dances With Wolves because it's about a white guy going native and becoming a great leader. But Avatar is just the latest scifi rehash of an old white guilt fantasy. Spoilers...
Whether Avatar is racist is a matter for debate. Regardless of where you come down on that question, it's undeniable that the film - like alien apartheid flick District 9, released earlier this year - is emphatically a fantasy about race. Specifically, it's a fantasy about race told from the point of view of white people. Avatar and scifi films like it give us the opportunity to answer the question: What do white people fantasize about when they fantasize about racial identity?
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
This was a racist, reductionist, sophomoric, ty kids movie. |
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| Lira |
Funny, I had 999 criticisms about this film, but this wasn't one of them (even though I hated the Last Samurai exactly for that reason).
I'd erase the word "white" and write "Euro-American" instead: there's always Will Smith :p |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Barf.
Sanctimony overload. |
YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE AN OPPRESSIVE WHITE MAN! YOU'D FEEL THE HURT IF YOU WERE LIKE ME, AN OPPRESSED WHITE...ISH MAN! :mad:
YOU'RE JUST ERASING THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE AN OPPRESSIVE NINJA MAN! YOU'D FEEL THE HURT IF YOU WERE LIKE ME, AN OPPRESSED... PIRATE! :mad: :thepirate |
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| yukii |
| if you think avatar sucked, then don't bother going to see sherlock holmes, that movie was a british fart. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
If you actually read the comments, that article pisses off non-whites for its perspective on race more than the actual film did. Sensitive (white) liberals never seem to spot the irony when they call out white-guilt fantasies as racist. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
If you actually read the comments, that article pisses off non-whites for its perspective on race more than the actual film did. Sensitive (white) liberals never seem to spot the irony when they call out white-guilt fantasies as racist. |
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| Nostalgic |
| White liberals treat minorities like little play toys. |
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| WittyHandle |
If you're white, you're damned from the get go.
Might as well be Catholic.
At least they're upfront about it. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
I like that article and in particular the distinction it makes with District 9 -
| quote: | | Avatar is a fantasy about ceasing to be white, giving up the old human meatsack to join the blue people, but never losing white privilege. Jake never really knows what it’s like to be a Na’vi because he always has the option to switch back into human mode. Interestingly, Wikus in District 9 learns a very different lesson. He’s becoming alien and he can’t go back. He has no other choice but to live in the slums and eat catfood. And guess what? He really hates it. He helps his alien buddy to escape Earth solely because he’s hoping the guy will come back in a few years with a “cure” for his alienness. When whites fantasize about becoming other races, it’s only fun if they can blithely ignore the fundamental experience of being an oppressed racial group. Which is that you are oppressed, and nobody will let you be a leader of anything. |
District 9 is designed to be uncomfortable - and for that reason I think it has some real artistic merit, as it forces one to rethink societal roles rather than prod one into some faux empathy - whereas Avatar is pure escapism by virtue of always leaving the protagonist an escape. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
All of that has been a staple amongst fantasy for a long, long time though. People should be reading into the psychology of why this is an attractive thing to people, not why Avatar in specific did it, because I assure you - it's definitely not an original concept.
It's not like they're putting the BluRay for Avatar in a ing space capsule or something, jesus. |
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